new research debunks trad views on nutrition

[Molpet]

Can you find anything that some study or other doesn't say has some harmfull effects?

Isn't that the truth. Every rabbit hole I go down is full of contradictions.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

Can you find anything that some study or other doesn't say has some harmfull effects?

No. EVERYTHING will kill you. That's why I don't stop at the scary word and instead consider dosage and frequency. (Something the State of California does not, rending their warning functionally useless)

 

[U_Stormcrow]

No. EVERYTHING will kill you. That's why I don't stop at the scary word and instead consider dosage and frequency. (Something the State of California does not, rending their warning functionally useless)

NOTHING, of course, will also kill you. Must consume to survive (and even that is more like a short term rental...)

 

[Perris]

another relevant item today, this time about biofortification as an attempt to mitigate the loss of nutrients from modern crops. I note that it does not discuss the role of human selection of varieties for shape, size, colour, speed of growth and maturity, ability to stand rough handling during transport, and above all, long storage capacity, in preference to nutritional value, which some would say is principally responsible for the present poor values of modern crops (rather, or at least more, than is CO2 in the atmosphere the cause)
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/mar/28/vegetables-losing-nutrients-biofortification

 

[Molpet]

An article I read, it's not available yet. Just something they are working on.

"
The additive is comprised of 4 essential fatty acids derived from vegetable oils: capric, caprylic, lauric and linoleic.

These acids have a strong bactericidal effect and inhibit the growth of most pathogenic and opportunistic infections common among birds, including coliform, streptococcal, staphylococcal, salmonella and E. coli, the company explained.

Mechanism of action​

After entering a bird’s stomach, the calcium salts of fatty acids interact with hydrochloric acid, “activating” the fatty acids and exhibiting their bactericidal effect. After this, fatty acids are absorbed into the blood like regular fat and are completely oxidised into energy without accumulating in the body."

https://www.poultryworld.net/health...ed-as-an-antibiotic-alternative-for-broilers/

 

[Krugerrand]

Dietary Trends From Our Ancestors (PDF)

This was on Mercola yesterday. It's written by Ashley Armstrong.
https://www.armstrongsisters.com/about

Reference to "ancestors" is going back to the early 1900's. The charts and old recipe snippets are interesting.

Perhaps something more 'scientific' would make this more authoritative. Typically, a Mercola article has about 4x the sources quoted that what is in here.

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/.../04/10/dietary-trends-from-our-ancestors.aspx

https://media.mercola.com/ImageServ...PDF/dietary-trends-from-our-ancestors-pdf.pdf

 

[Perris]

Thanks for linking that @Krugerrand . Agreed it's interesting and a bit shallow, but there are references to decent sources; it is of course marketing for nutrition courses, so it's pitched accordingly.

 

[Molpet]

Article about using waste to grow BS fly to replace soybeans
https://www.allaboutfeed.net/all-ab...loM6ewJGt_I6lPQ&mlnmsg=75bbivNSZldUV_aGfm_9xw

 

[Perris]

Article about using waste to grow BS fly to replace soybeans
https://www.allaboutfeed.net/all-about/new-proteins/is-bsf-an-economically-viable-option-for-soy-protein-in-animal-feed/?utm_source=Maileon&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=AAF_REG_2024-04-12&utm_content=https://www.allaboutfeed.net/all-about/new-proteins/is-bsf-an-economically-viable-option-for-soy-protein-in-animal-feed/&mlnt=djwW3fTSsC3NHlVLRSiiW02l7Vlf1YBrEGowClu00GU8WcBCa0liNw&mlnm=P_LgTZuw8Tc&mlnl=jC8oZNvVIeM&mlnc=QzrJAg6mYvg&mlnch=ZSlYkZYloM6ewJGt_I6lPQ&mlnmsg=75bbivNSZldUV_aGfm_9xw

That's a useful summary of the trials. BSF grow fast and they can live on wet food waste, which seems to be why they've been preferred in these early trials of insect feeds (because they are not better nutritionally than several other insects, all other things being equal), but there are a lot of inconveniences (and thus expenses) with using them. That's why I prefer mealworms.

 

[Perris]

Another useful piece today, this time focusing on protein
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2024/apr/15/truth-about-protein-how-to-get-enough-every-age