new research debunks trad views on nutrition

[Perris]

the foods that doctors tell us to exercise extreme caution about

you have yet to supply a single sensible source for this idea, even as idiopathic advice to you as an individual, so why generalise to 'us'?

I am not discussing this further. It's a fake issue.

 

[Debbie292d]

When you look up the manufacturing of Citric Acid and Xanthan Gum there are warnings and statements that mould makes it through the manufacturing process into the final products. So I'm thinking that there is mould in the final product just based on that.

Since I've been allergic to Penicillin since my 20s and am now 64, I've never been told I had to avoid anything. That doesn't mean there's not something, I'm sure, but...

AI: No, citric acid is highly unlikely to cause problems if you are allergic to penicillin; they are completely different substances and a penicillin allergy does not typically translate to an allergy to citric acid, which is found in citrus fruits and is not considered a common allergen.

Q: Can you eat blue cheese when allergic to penicillin?

AI: According to the American Academy of Allergy, Asthma, and Immunology, the Penicillium cultures that create blue cheese do not produce penicillin. Therefore, it is generally safe for people with penicillin allergies to eat blue cheese, as long as the cheese has not spoiled.

 

[My Very First 6 Chickens]

in particular, see this page
https://www.ffungi.org/why-fungi/food-and-drink

Mycelium is amazing!

 

[My Very First 6 Chickens]

Mycelium is amazing!

Hubby and I grow all sorts of mushrooms. Our favorite are the Lions Mane and the red antler Reishi. We make tinctures and powders. Been doing it for years.

 

[Perris]

Hubby and I grow all sorts of mushrooms. Our favorite are the Lions Mane and the red antler Reishi. We make tinctures and powders. Been doing it for years.

they look fantastic!

 

[My Very First 6 Chickens]

they look fantastic!

Thanks Perris! Our goal this year is to take it to the next level by getting our products tested in a lab as well as start a website.

 

[Down Under]

Q: Can you eat blue cheese when allergic to penicillin?

AI: According to the American Academy of Allergy, Asthma, and Immunology, the Penicillium cultures that create blue cheese do not produce penicillin. Therefore, it is generally safe for people with penicillin allergies to eat blue cheese, as long as the cheese has not spoiled.

Hi Debbie292d,

Sorry but the AI software that everyone is using must be on the fritz at the moment:

https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/if-you-are-allergic-to-penicillin-can-you-eat-stilton

Allergic to both = severe allergy.

 

[Perris]

Hi Debbie292d,

Sorry but the AI software that everyone is using must be on the fritz at the moment:

https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/if-you-are-allergic-to-penicillin-can-you-eat-stilton

Allergic to both = severe allergy.

at last a decent link, but it does not say what you seem to think it says:
"The antibiotic penicillin is made from the fungus Penicillium chrysogenum. Stilton and most other blue cheeses do use Penicillium mould to create the blue veins, but they use a different strain (P. roqueforti) and the whole mould, rather than the penicillin extract.

It is possible to be allergic to the drug and still be able to eat the cheese with impunity, although there are also people who are allergic to both. It’s also worth noting that only 20 per cent of people who think they are allergic to penicillin, actually are."

So you can be allergic to penicillin and still be able to eat Stilton, made with a penicillin mould. And only one 1 in 5 of the people who think they are allergic to penicillin actually are allergic to penicillin. There are some people - number unspecified but by context must be a smaller minority - who are allergic to both the varieties of penicillin in the whole mould and the extract.

And all this still fails to support your contention that something like citric acid produced through the action of an allergen is also an allergen.

You should talk with your doctor about this because you appear not to understand the science here.

 

[NatJ]

you have yet to supply a single sensible source for this idea, even as idiopathic advice to you as an individual, so why generalise to 'us'?

You mean like this?

If you want to talk to my medical professional as to why they told me to be cautious of all moulds in relation to penicillin allergies and not yeast or mushrooms then you are more than welcome to.. but they have been correct in their advice so far.

I would say that @Down Under is right to follow the advice they were given by a medical professional.

Whether that can be generalized to anyone else is a question I wouldn't even try to answer.

 

[Perris]

I would say that @Down Under is right to follow the advice they were given by a medical professional.

I agree, but what someone asserts here is not a source.

Whether that can be generalized to anyone else is a question I wouldn't even try to answer.

My point exactly.

Edited to add, one individual's allergies and their understanding of them are irrelevant to this thread. This current discussion started because said individual asserted that citric acid is dangerous for someone with an allergy to penicillin. That individual should of course follow their doctor's advice. But that is completely irrelevant to Shadrach's assertion that a jar of sundried tomatoes contains no dangerous preservative. Citric acid is not a dangerous preservative. Can we please now get this thread back on track?