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U_Stormcrow said:
Prion diseases, btw, are most prominently "mad cow". There are no known prion diseases in poultry, and laws have been changed re: "repurposing" of bovine brain and spinal materials for feed usage.
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Poultry litter, containing feces and deadstck, is still allowed as an ingredient in cattle feed, and -surprise - bird flu pops up in cattle in the US only.
 
U_Stormcrow said:
Re: PCDDs and PCDFs, suggested reading.

Recommend you not raise poultry or grow grain crops on the site of old paper mills and smelters. (also high trace metals on old smelting locations, and increased background radiation levels.

But if you did, you *could be* organic certified, in spite of the ground's prior use and likely soil contaminants. Becoming certified doesn't require you provide pure, toxin free grounds, just that you not use most any chemical products for a number of years (3) prior to certification, and remain free of those products in the future.

https://www.ams.usda.gov/grades-standards/organic-standards
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DDT found in pot grown in old orchards.
https://apnews.com/article/washington-marijuana-pesticide-ddt-dde-f5e5187d5248dca434956a67eb084df6
 
U_Stormcrow said:
Yes.

There has been a movement away from wide spread antibiotic usage. Its expensive. Use of things like glyphosate is a more mixed bag. In some areas, in some years, use is down (it is also expensive, and requires more expensive seed), in other years, and other areas, its up.

and buying "organic" does nothing to address bacterial pathogens, antibiotic-resistant bacteria, prions, metals, or mycotoxins.

Prion diseases, btw, are most prominently "mad cow". There are no known prion diseases in poultry, and laws have been changed re: "repurposing" of bovine brain and spinal materials for feed usage.
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Since prion diseases are transmitted by nervous tissue in feed, how would they appear in (labeled) organic feed? Are OMRI and USDA certifying bovine brain tissue as organic?

Same re: antibiotics. Surely abx aren’t approved for organic labeling?
 
Perris said:
A couple of senators are currently trying to get the inclusion of manure in feed banned, which suggests not much change. I linked to an article on it somewhere a few months ago.
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I am tying myself in knots trying not to comment on US senators trying to place controls on the spread of bovine (or avian) manure…

Oops. Well, I did try.
 
U_Stormcrow said:
AI isn't a Prion disease.
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I think we all know it's a virus.

And viruses - which are of course everywhere, most of them harmless but some like AI harmful - are spread in faeces, commonly. Bird faeces. So who thinks it is a good idea to put bird faeces from a species and environment where bird flu thrives - commercial poultry sheds - into the concentrated food pellets of cows?
 
'What your food ate' by Montgomery and Bikle was published in 2023 and is relatively up to date
https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324004530

The focus is on soil health rather than e.g. manure in feeds. It has lots to offer on what recent, dominant practices have done to the soil and what used to live in it, and regenerative methods to restore sick and dead soil.
 

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