new to peas... questions

[Birdrain92]

Okay the second picture there should be one female and one male for the Indian Blues. The first image i can only tell the one Indian Blue is a male the one you can see the wing, the other Indian Blue peachick that is eating in the first image I can't tell very well because I can't see the wing feathers. I sex them by the wing feathers and I haven't had pied peachicks before I have only sexed Indian Blues but I read somewhere a few years ago that you can sex any bird by the elbow part on the wing, if there is a bump in the bone it is female and if not then it is male. I haven't tried that I usually do coloring when it comes to birds were the female and male have different plumage. I only know three ways to sex birds: tint, or coloring in the plumage which depends on the bird usually the male is brighter when it comes to all birds but as you can see in my profile picture with my Fawn & White Indian Runner ducks how one is darker while the other is brighter but the female duck is the brighter so that is why I only do tint and coloring if the plumage is different, the other is the wing bone trick but I haven't used that sexing method because most of my birds have different plumage, the last which I usually wouldn't use but hatcheries sometimes use is were you squeeze the chick a little bit just to open up the vent and if there is a bump then it is male if no bump then female. I hope what I have told you about the peachicks sex will be right and the information I have given helps and is right. Like I said I have only sexed 5 peachicks and I was right but it might have just been luck I might be wrong but if I am right then I will assume that my sexing method with Indian Blue peachicks is correct please notify me if I'm correct when they are older. Once they are older it will be alot easier to sex them. Also at the begging of these posts were you posted both of your peacocks, I hate to bring the bad news but by the looks of it they are both males looking at the primary feathers. If you don't know what and where the primary feathers are they are the one furthest away from the body, the wing tips, that is where you can see the difference between male and female peafowls before they're ready to breed.

 

[new 2 pfowl]

Well, I don't know anything about pied peababies!
But here are some clues for guessing about IB peachick sex:



(easier to see if you click on image to enlarge)

 

[msmolly]

So can any one help me sex these peachicks? The first pictures are at 3 days old, and the other is, same chicks 6 days old. There are 3 India Blues(browns) and 3 Pieds. There is clearly some stippling or barring happening on all three brown(IBs) shoulders, is that significant? The Pieds, I have no clue, but there are a few speckles happening on one of the Pieds shoulders, you can kinda see in the last pic. Sorry, the chicks move a lot faster now, so getting in focus-pictures is getting harder.

Thanks the tips!

 

[msmolly]

I'm going to try the elbow bone thing tomorrow, providing I can catch them! See If I can get better pictures. Thanks Birdbrain and New2!

 

[Birdrain92]

Zazouse, how I came to that theory is seeing the difference in the adults and looking if the peachicks have the same differences as well. I am trying to find out how to do the plumage for white and pied peafowls because I'm trying to get white peahen or peacock. So I'm looking into it I will let you guys know when I discover and make another theory.

 

[Birdrain92]

New 2 Peafowl, I looked at the picture that you posted and looked at the primary feathers and it looks like my theory is right so you might have just helped me confirm my Indian Blue peachick sexing based on the wing theory. Thank you. Msmolly I will help you with the sexing once there is a picture for the Indian Blue peachick that is unsexed and I hope for the best that you will find out what sex the pied peafowls are I'm doing research to see if I can find differences and will post my theory if I come up with one. Same with white peafowls.

 

[zazouse]

Zazouse, how I came to that theory is seeing the difference in the adults and looking if the peachicks have the same differences as well. I am trying to find out how to do the plumage for white and pied peafowls because I'm trying to get white peahen or peacock. So I'm looking into it I will let you guys know when I discover and make another theory.

 

[Birdrain92]

I looked at some pictures of mature white peafowls and white peachicks and the only difference I could find with the peachicks that most of the time remains in the adults is the tint. Females had more of a creamy to a dark creamy yellow on the body and I still found that creamy yellow on an adult female. Males have little to no creamy yellow on the body, and I found that an adult male was solid white but rarely found a photo were there was a bright creamy yellow right where the train begins. Pied peafowls are a mix usually between the two varieties of peafowl. So you can look at the head or body: bright brown, Male; dark brown, Female; creamy or dark creamy yellow, Female; white or little creamy yellow, Male. Wings only work with the Indian Blue plumage: orangish, Male; dark brown, Female. Those are ways of sexing White and Indian Blue peafowls. The white peafowl I still might be wrong I haven't raised any white peafowls from chicks before so I might be wrong on the white peafowl but I'm 98% sure I'm right just not 100%.

 

[new 2 pfowl]

I certainly don't have any experience with white peachicks, but it seems to be a fairly universal opinion, among those with a LOT of white peachick experience, that they cannot be sexed as small chicks (searching on this forum will provide some of these expert opinions). It also seems apparent that a difference in "tone" of whites in adults can often be strongly influenced by diet, so that may not be a reliable means of predicting sex. For example, a high corn diet can create a yellowish tint in the white.

As far as IB sexing goes, it seems to be pretty straightforward based on wing barring, although it is much easier to tell the difference if you have a few peachicks to compare to each other!
Birdrain92, very nice job observing IB peachick coloring...but this isn't only your theory about peachick sexing!!

This seems to be the generally recommended way of telling the sex of IB chicks...

These guys are about 1 month old.

 

[Birdrain92]

Well I still will try the white peafowl sexing you never know things aren't always the same. Such as incubation period for ducks is 28 days, for me my Indian Runner ducks hatched out in 24 to 25 days and I know that for a fact because I picked the eggs the day they were layed. So that is why I keep telling myself animals don't read what is is what it will be no matter what no one can change that so I do my best in finding the answer and change my methods and find new ways to discover certain things for myself. I can't be 100% sure til I experience it for myself or if I find that other people use the same method so that is why I said it was my theory. I know other people use methods for sexing certain birds but that is what I do to sex IB peachicks.