NJ Court Rules Against so-called 'Humane Practices"

[bluey]

"This is a major victory for farm animals" pretty much explains it all...

Who gets to be the first one to break the "great" news to farm animals?

Sounds like more government intrusion, regulation and a waste of taxpayer/consumer money...

As if hardworking families don't pay enough for their food....

 

[Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay]

Any so-called "victory" that the organization or ASPCA is involved in is NOT a gain for agriculture!!!!!

This is a bad precedence. As one poster stated, watch what you ask for.

Jim

 

[Promiselandfarm]

I agree watch out soon our hens or roosters will be out of the question....laws or too many of them are not a good thing. Animal rights will continue to grow and soon we will all have to be veggans or worse like it or not. It is okay if you chose that but if you don't? Who is going to stand up for the poor veggies you know they get chemical-ed to death...

... not to mention what it is doing to mother earth....

 

[lengel]

I don't think that legislation will go so far as to prohibit care for our farm animals that is otherwise sanctioned for our domestic animals, including injections, wound care etc. It seems that the legislation is trying to extend to farm animals the same considerations they would for domestic animals.

 

[smom1976]

I personally am glad .. we do need some regulatons on large factory farm operations.. not really so on the smaller home farmers.

But with that said.. it shouldnt be the governments responsibility! Kind of a shame that it had to go to court like this. It should be the peoples choice.. let me explain

we are a consumer run society. If the people want it then someone will create it.. I agree with the pp that it should be broadcast on 20/20 or 60min. When people want it it happens. When our society as a whole takes a stand then it would happen. NO farmer wants to go out of business.

 

[Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay]

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Please indluge my questioning.

Are you saying the castration and tail docking don't hurt on a small farm, but it do on a "large factory farm"?

Decisions like this are bad for livestock production, especially any decision touted as a vicotry by the organization, ASPCA, or Farm Sanctuary.

Jim

 

[Farmer Kitty]

Yes, large factory farms pratices tend to be cruel but, as has been stated watch out what you ask for. Despurring a roo, banding a bull calf, etc. cound end up falling under the rules. There are some practices that just need to be.

 

[smom1976]

Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay :

Quote:
Please indluge my questioning.

Are you saying the castration and tail docking don't hurt on a small farm, but it do on a "large factory farm"?

Decisions like this are bad for livestock production, especially any decision touted as a vicotry by the organization, ASPCA, or Farm Sanctuary.

Jim

you have a good point.. my intention for that comment was more towards. Battery cages, and downed cattle practices.

a smaller farmer is more likely to have better living conditions and better practices for downed animals. ie. they dont let it get so bad.

When I was driving to college about a 50 min drive through country, before gas went crazy. I passed by this house that had cattle.. so anyway they had this pen (about the size of a horse running pen... the kind that you stand in the middle with the horse on a lead and you get it to run in circles.) It was empty for most of the time.. anyway one time when I went by I saw that they had put a baby calf in this pen.. I figured right away that this calf was meant for viel.. now I dont eat viel let me get this strait out because of the pictures I have seen of these poor little guys put in these tiny stalls and not let to move at all.. but this little one had a bit of room.. and they even put out one of those portable shed things to give it some shade.. and I saw them out there talking to it and took really good care of this little one. I think it was about a month later it just wasnt there anymore. I assume that it was eaten.. I didnt stop to ask.. but I was so glad to see that even though they wanted viel they did it more humane than a factory farm for sure. These people live there and have their livestock with them.. Keeping their property in good conditions.

this example is what was sticking out in my mind when I posted. And the idea of if we as a "majority" of consumers pushed for these conditions. Factory farms would change, or go out of business.​

 

[BayCityBabe]

I think that the "victory" here is that New Jersey is able to question industry practices, rather than the industry setting the standards. I also agree that this COULD become the slippery slope.
BTW, did anyone check out that website's forum? I just had to roll my eyes at the posting about "now animals can run free, like nature intended." A pre-teen? A veg-head with no logical thought processes? Playing devil's advocate to get the debate going?

 

[Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay]

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Whoever wrote that did not read the ruling. It did NOT address confinement or crates, it only addressed practices such as castration, tail docking, debeaking, etc without proper anesthesia or pain management. I wonder if any of the people involved in these cases has actually done a castration on a pig or even watched one? I doubt it.

Jim