No corn fed chickens?

[Dennis1979]

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"You are what you eat" as the saying goes and so are cows. Corn-fed cows are just that, 100% corn fed. Cows basically convert corn into meat, so it stands to reason that whatever is in the corn that one might be allergic to, will also be in the beef. Chickens don't consume as much corn but corn (and soybeans) are a major part of their diet.

There are huge physical differences in corn fed beef and grass fed beef. The saturated fat content in corn fed is something like 9 times higher than grass fed. Grass fed beef is real high in Omega 3's and lower in Omega 6's while corn fed is the opposite. So you can see how what goes in the animal effects the animals physical makeup.

Dennis

 

[hooligan]

Yes but its not Omega3 and fat she's allergic to, its corn...and no matter how much corn you feed a cow it will not turn into an ear of corn.

If anyone has a scientific article on how what an animal eats will make you allergic to eating that animal I would love to read it. I am not saying it couldn't happen I would just like to know the process in which it does.

 

[Dennis1979]

I'm not saying it is the omega 3's that she is allergic to. The point there is to show how drastic the effect of the food source can be on the meat. The omega 3's from the grass are directly transferred into the meat of the cow in the same way the corn elements get in there. That don't take much science to figure out.

 

[hooligan]

Do you have any articles that you could site with info on how the allergens could be transfered to the eater after cooking of the animal?
There are alot of animal that eat food that would make us sick, yet people eat them (the animals) without any problems to their own health.

Amy, does your sister have any info on how this might happen?

 

[dangerouschicken]

WELLLLLL, I was allergic to chicken, cantaloupe, cumin, carrot, coffee, buckwheat, barley, onion, and corn. I have asthma, and the foods were contributing to it. I also couldn't digest them properly. I stopped eating them for 6 years. It was soooo hard because corn and onion are in EVERYTHING. I really feel your sister's pain on that.

The good news is that after I had gastric bypass surgery, in December, not only did I lose weight, but I lost most of my allergies, as well! I can now eat cantaloupe, cumin, carrot, onion and corn successfully. I have always continued to drink coffee, even though it makes me sort of nauseous. I am an addict!

I haven't tried to eat buckwheat and barley yet.

I can't recommend GB for your sister, of course, but I do empathize with her experience.

Naturemom, a BYC member, uses this recipe. It has corn, but perhaps it can be modified once you find a substitute?

http://www.greenerpasturesfarm.com/ChickenFeedRecipe.html

 

[kinnip]

I'm probably totally butchering this explanation, but the deal with corn is that it has (as with all organic compounds) a certain marker that denotes it as corn. That marker later reappears in the carbon chains that constitute the thing that ate the corn. I'm not sure that this means you can have an allergic reaction to it, since more than likely, there's just a chemical in corn that causes the allergy, not the corn itself. That being said, production practices are pretty fast and sloppy these days. There's nothing to guarantee that some of the stomach contents weren't spilled onto the meat, or that the meat processors hands didn't have feed on them. There are a number of things that could contaminate the meat.

 

[Mac in Wisco]

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There's a definite link between the asthma, allergies, and the esophagus. My dad had asthma and food allergies for years. He had trouble keeping food down and had problems with asthma. Doctor after doctor did allergy testing and gave him long lists of things to avoid; wheat, corn, milk, basically everything... Finally he had a doctor that diagnosed it as a stomach disorder. They inserted balloons in his esophagus to stretch things out. He has had few problems since. They say the stomach disorder he had is becoming more common in people with a history of allergies and asthma. Although they seem to think the allergies cause the stomach problems, it is strange that the allergies and asthma disappear after treatment...

 

[dangerouschicken]

WOW mac, I think that is a remarkable story about your dad! I know that GB completely reverses Type 2 diabetes also, so now doctors in Sao Paulo, Brazil are performing human trials to see if a modified surgery can help non-obese diabetics. It has to do with the disconnection/reconnection of the duodenum.

The guy leading this is an Italian surgeon named Francesco Rubino. He began performing the bypass on diabetic rats, and noticed that when he disconnected the top of the small intestine (the duodenum) the diabetes disappeared. He reversed the operation, and when he reattached it, the diabetes came back. By blocking food from traveling through the duodenum, Rubino sent diabetes into remission, proving the effect was independent from weight loss. This meant diabetes could essentially be removed with a modified Gastric Bypass surgery.

Amazing!

 

[amyquilt]

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There's a definite link between the asthma, allergies, and the esophagus. My dad had asthma and food allergies for years. He had trouble keeping food down and had problems with asthma. Doctor after doctor did allergy testing and gave him long lists of things to avoid; wheat, corn, milk, basically everything... Finally he had a doctor that diagnosed it as a stomach disorder. They inserted balloons in his esophagus to stretch things out. He has had few problems since. They say the stomach disorder he had is becoming more common in people with a history of allergies and asthma. Although they seem to think the allergies cause the stomach problems, it is strange that the allergies and asthma disappear after treatment...

I can attest to the respiratory/gastric relations. I have a 4yo Autistic son and both are FREQUENTLY found in autistic children. My son, included. They did allergy testing and it turned up nothing. So it's off to the gut doctor next, to see what's going on there.

 

[cjeanean]

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The cow and chicken produce eggs and milk, but do not consume them. Therefore the specific thing in the eggs and milk would not be in the meat, since those two byproducts are separate and unique from the animal itself. They may come from the animal, but they are different. The chemical composition of the product may be what does it to you, I don't know. It does make sense, though. If an animals eats something that a person may be allergic to and the part of the allergen stays the same during digestion and all that other great stuff then yes, it very well could cause a secondary allergic reaction.