Non-Stick Pans???

Discussion in 'Caged Birds - Finches, Canaries, Cockatiels, Parro' started by PoultryQueen29, Mar 27, 2012.

  1. PoultryQueen29

    PoultryQueen29 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I use nonstick pans every day. It's something I can't do without. What's all this about non-stick pan fumes killing birds instantly? I have button quail in my bonus room upstairs and have had them for a while now and they're fine but I was looking into buying a parrot a year ago and started looking again and it says do not use them or your bird will die from fumes. Can anyone explain this clearly to me because I don't know how my birds aren't dead. Is it because they aren't near the kitchen? I want to get a dove not a parrot after doing some research so can I safely keep them in the house?
     
  2. TonysChickens

    TonysChickens Chillin' With My Peeps

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    You have to overheat your nonstick pans before it gives off the toxic fumes. That happens at the temperature the pans are rated for. Mostly around 350 or 375?
     
  3. FireTigeris

    FireTigeris Tyger! Tyger! burning bright

    the first time the non-stick pan is used it burns off the excess Teflon and other sealants.

    These fumes (in the same room with the bird) can kill the bird- it's not great for you either.

    I use cast iron and season with bacon lard- it's more non-stick (when done right- see LODGE USA made cast iron) and the only thing that you end up getting is more iron, not odd chemicals.

    The danger would be if you kept your parrot in the kitchen, we keep our cocktails in the kitchen-dinning room area but as far away from the fire as possible (we cook with propane) the distance is about 30 feet.
     
  4. PoultryQueen29

    PoultryQueen29 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Ok I think i'll be fine
     
  5. TonysChickens

    TonysChickens Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I'm a big cast iron fan myself. I got the lodge cast iron 12 inch pan, and a coleman dutch oven just recently. Also got some thin skillets, more for frying fish, or serving plate than anything else. That cast iron pan can make great crepe!
     
  6. AquaEyes

    AquaEyes Chillin' With My Peeps

    If nonstick coating overheats, the fumes emitted can kill all the birds in a home. True, the likelihood of this happening during normal usage is low, but accidents happen -- someone could forget to turn off a burner. I know someone who lost almost all the birds in her house when she set her new oven to self-clean. She started two parrot clubs on Long Island (where I'm from), and would bring her macaw family to the meetings. I got to meet her birds before they died, and can tell you that the shortened story below doesn't fully go into the heartbreak she and her husband endured. To me, a pan isn't worth the risk, and I use cast-iron.

    http://www.parrotclubs.com/features_article1.html

    And some more stories on PTFE below:

    http://www.avianweb.com/teflon.htm
     
  7. Betelgeuse

    Betelgeuse Out Of The Brooder

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    Sadly, like AquaEyes story, I also know of someone who lost birds in her home when a non stick waffle iron was left on too long.

    Once a person gets used to cooking with stainless and cast iron it is impossible to go back!
     
  8. punk-a-doodle

    punk-a-doodle Chillin' With My Peeps

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    As others have said, once you go cast iron, you won't want to go back.

    A well seasoned cast iron pan will also ensure nothing sticks to it. You just have to make sure to dry it well to prevent rust. No air drying for cast iron. It deserves so much more...
     
  9. PoultryQueen29

    PoultryQueen29 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Well that's why I wanted to get something like a ringneck dove that can stay on my screened-in porch with a heat lamp or a fan or simple things like that. I don't think my family would be willing to throw away all of our non-stick pans and go cast iron. I would but they wouldn't because they really don't care about my love for birds that much.
     
  10. FireTigeris

    FireTigeris Tyger! Tyger! burning bright

    What are your temps year around?

    My collared doves are out year around, in a place with covered on 5 of 6 sides, in FL (20*F-110*F)
     
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