Not again 😣

[Miss Lydia]

I know that would be hard for me too, but thinking it will help her may make it easier

 

[BelovedBirds]

why can't you bring her in? no room?

I live with my parents still, they absolutely will not allow her indoors. Occasionally I ignore them if she needs a warm bath. But even then they get very upset with me over it. They are not understanding at all.
Brought up the point that these situations can turn really bad, just got a shrug "well, if she dies, she dies"
That's basically the attitude.
I'm so ready to move out.

 

[BelovedBirds]

I know that would be hard for me too, but thinking it will help her may make it easier

I'd need to to go back and read through the writing about it again, but I'm pretty sure the initial thing was withholding all food for three days, withholding water for a full day at the start, too
Would she really be okay without food for that long?

 

[Miss Lydia]

I'd have a hard time doing this, especially the withholding water too. I'd worry she would get dehydrated.

 

[BelovedBirds]

I'd have a hard time doing this, especially the withholding water too. I'd worry she would get dehydrated.

It's quite warm currently, too
Do you think there's a chance it would still work if she had access to water?
I know you might not be able to answer that, but.
Ugh, I just wish she'd stop laying.

 

[BelovedBirds]

I feel really bad for not taking her to a vet. Really bad.
But even if I could afford it, and I truly can't- I don't trust them.
I've taken an animal in before and have not been allowed to take them home. And that was a misdiagnosis too.
I'm scared they'd pressure me into treatments I don't like or worse.

 

[Miss Lydia]

It's so sad we can't even trust vets and doctors any longer [just my opinion]

We have to be our own vets really and they are even going to make that hard for us since soon we won't be able to get meds without a prescription. We can use natural products like Oregano and other herbs I am using Greek oregano with my flock which is an natural antibiotic.

 

[DuneDucks]

It's quite warm currently, too
Do you think there's a chance it would still work if she had access to water?
I know you might not be able to answer that, but.
Ugh, I just wish she'd stop laying.

I don't think I'd restrict access to water completely, maybe just reduce access that first day, especially this time of year. The way the page reads Fall would probably be the more ideal time. So with that in mind, if you do try a force molt, I'd use those steps as more of a basic outline than something you need to follow super strictly. You know better than anyone what's best for your girls.

I found another discussion on the force molting here: https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...-take-a-break-from-laying-eggs.1436013/page-2. @Isaac 0 actually mentions it could be fatal to completely remove their water while an egg is being formed.

I have completely stopped egg production in my pekin more than once by very strict environment changes only. The first time she was 1.5-2 years old and laying daily. The second time she was 5.5. She is almost 7 now and hasn't been reproductively active for over a year because of our daily efforts - but we also don't have a life.

We only do this because Thimbleberry would have died both times without it. We are also under the guidance of an avian veterinarian. Thimble gets regular veterinary visits where her weight, body condition, and organ function is tested via blood. I wouldn't be doing this without the advice of my vet.

If you want more information to discuss with your vet let me know, I am happy to share what has worked for Thimbleberry.

I'm sorry if @KaleIAm already said something and I just missed the post, but sounds like they might be able to give you some better advice from their own experience.

 

[DuneDucks]

It's so sad we can't even trust vets and doctors any longer [just my opinion]

We have to be our own vets really and they are even going to make that hard for us since soon we won't be able to get meds without a prescription.

Ugh, sorry to get a bit off-topic, but I was at the feed store earlier and saw this applied to stuff like terramycin too. Now I'll need to go to the vet and get a prescription to treat minor cuts and abrasions around a duck's (any animal for that matter) eye. How ridiculous.

I actually have a blue heeler who was bit in the eye by another dog a few weeks back. The vet sent me home with a big bill and some eyedrops that made no discernable difference after several days. I break out the terramycin from my duck's first aid kit and her eye was cleared up within 24 hours. And that vet won't even see my ducks. So, yeah, I too am pretty desperate for a vet who I can trust to take care of my animals and not price gouge me in the process.

 

[BelovedBirds]

I don't think I'd restrict access to water completely, maybe just reduce access that first day, especially this time of year. The way the page reads Fall would probably be the more ideal time. So with that in mind, if you do try a force molt, I'd use those steps as more of a basic outline than something you need to follow super strictly. You know better than anyone what's best for your girls.

I found another discussion on the force molting here: https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...-take-a-break-from-laying-eggs.1436013/page-2. @Isaac 0 actually mentions it could be fatal to completely remove their water while an egg is being formed.



I'm sorry if @KaleIAm already said something and I just missed the post, but sounds like they might be able to give you some better advice from their own experience.

Thank you for your reply!
I'll keep that in mind, I'll have a read through the thread and sleep on it.
I just hope I can figure something out for her