Not today, Trash Panda

[123RedBeard]

Yup, same with most "polls" "statistics", and other "research" ... get the answer you want, figure out how to support it ...

We were asked for any studies ... I provided ... just saying ...

 

[OhZark Biddies]

I can't find one state in the USA that allows a homeowner to just transport and release a trapped wild animal off their own property ... can you?

I’m not aware of a state law that prohibits it in my home state of Missouri ... other than that there are laws against releasing on state and federal lands... and probably a lot of local ordinances that prohibit releasing in city parks, etc.

....there are some specific requirements that are laid out for dealing with a problem critter after catching it, outside of the trapping season but it’s a little unclear to me if those apply if the critter is not killed.... but the state certainly encourages people to dispatch rather than relocate...

... but just as an example, as far as I know during the furbearer trapping season it would be legal for me to catch and relocate a raccoon from my place to my friend’s farm 15 miles away...

I am aware of some other specific regulations concerning being in possession of a trapped critter and the length of time it can be confined, etc.... for example when critters are released to train hounds, etc... but as far as I know there is nothing that prohibits me from relocating during the trapping season...

And just for clarification, I trap a lot, mostly to keep nest robbing critter numbers lower to help wild ground nesting birds such as turkeys and quail...

...putting down critters isn’t an issue for me.... I just don’t buy that every critter that is relocated can’t make it... as I said earlier there are so many variables that the survival rate likely varies a great deal based on region, time of year, etc.

 

[Chickassan]

You're right about that.
They're not usually quite as open about how much shite is enclosed as the squirrel study.
I'm impressed and dismayed simultaneously.

Yup, same with most "polls" "statistics", and other "research" ... get the answer you want, figure out how to support it ...

We were asked for any studies ... I provided ... just saying ...

 

[OhZark Biddies]

We were asked for any studies ... I provided ... just saying ...

Nope I didn’t ask for anything

I said this:

...but never with any reference to a study that actually tracked relocated critters extensively, etc...

...the studies I have found on the subject are limited and not real conclusive either way...

And the squirrel study is exactly the kind of limited thing that I have been able to find also...

In a different conversation people will tell us how adaptable wild critters are... but when it comes to the relocating conversation they seem to be so fragile

 

[OhZark Biddies]

Study of squirrels have been done ...

https://totalwildlifecontrol.com/resources/animal-relocation-studies/suburban-squirrels/

https://www.researchgate.net/public...of_translocated_urban-suburban_grey_squirrels

Btw... our gray squirrel populations periodically migrate... last summer I had easily 12 squirrels in the yard every morning... then come August they all disappeared and I didn’t see a single squirrel for three months or better... same thing all around this area... the woods in at least a 50 mile radius were eerily quiet... then sometime this spring some of them came back ...

I guess someone needs to tell those squirrels they are being cruel to themselves by relocating like that

 

[123RedBeard]

Nope I didn’t ask for anything

My apologies, I misunderstood, I took it as you were looking for a study.

I also was skeptical about their assuming that the "missing ones" were dead ... maybe they ran off back home, or to the beach ... just because the couldn't find them, doesn't mean they died ... but, that is the category they put them under ...

 

[OhZark Biddies]

My apologies, I misunderstood, I took it as you were looking for a study.

I also was skeptical about their assuming that the "missing ones" were dead ... maybe they ran off back home, or to the beach ... just because the couldn't find them, doesn't mean they died ... but, that is the category they put them under ...

You needn’t apologize... you’ve been a good sport and I’m enjoying the conversation!

 

[roosterhavoc]

Not every animal is gonna go belly up that’s relocated. Hell they reintroduce animals all the time into areas with lower populations of certain species. Granted there’s less of a population for them to run into and cause less conflict.
Relocation also has to to have some benefit of genetic diversity.
The real issue is people catch an animal that has proven themselves a nuisance and the chicken owner aka *wimp* doesn’t have it in them to kill them so they just turn it loose somewhere else. As long as they don’t see it get smoked by a car or ripped apart by other animals it’s a non issue.

 

[50-45-1]

http://www.humaneraccoonremoval.org/relocate.php
here is a pretty good article on relocation.
If i set my live trap, I have a plan on what i will do with whatever i catch. My traps are set right next to the outside of my coop or run. anything caught there has come looking for trouble.
the only thing i have caught and released has been a snake. they are very beneficial, and i just move them out to my orchard where they do me a favor and eat the mice.
everything else, racoon, opossum, feral cat, weasel.....etc. go quickly and painlessly .

 

[cmom]

Here it is illegal unless you get the property owners permission to relocate on their land. I permanently relocate all of my catches. We are rural on a dead end road and have had people relocate their problems here. I once found a baby goose that was dropped off in my driveway. There are plenty of predators and I don't believe that coons are threatened. I recently permanently relocated a couple of foxes that killed some of my birds and I still see some on my game cameras. Others will move in and replace them.