Noticed pip last night around 8 pm...

[sanchoman]

I'm not sure why someone is telling me that 4 hours in too fast... I posted it was 20 hours... as of now it's 28 hours...

I assisted a little bit and it was shrink wrapped. Possibly from me opening the bator once or twice after what I thought was too much time had passed...

I used some tiny scissors and cut away the shrink wrapped spot that was holding her head tucked down and one of her legs and she stretched out and appears to be ok.

Time will tell.

This was my first hatch and I've learned alot.

Time to do some more homework to better be ready for hatch #2.

 

[debilorrah]

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Hey Sancho, I saw the 20 hours you waited, and I pretty much knew it would be shrink wrapped when you got home. Is it out of the shell completely now? I would love to see a pic. And I have a pic of my INCREDIBLY shrink wrapped chick that made it if you are interested.

 

[Baralak]

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In 5 years of hatching, I have not had one that the yolk wasn't absorbed.

As with anything, if its early, there will be blood, and then its too early and one should wait. But she has waited 20 hours already. As I said, it has been my experience that waiting that long is too long. Everyone has their own experiences, breeds are different. The chicks that I most often go in & help are Marans, they are notoriously hard to hatch.

If it works for you, then you can keep on doing it that way. I personally feel it is irresponsible information to pass out to the masses. Good luck with your hatches!

Looking back on my records.. Generally the first pip is followed by the first zip about 20-23 hours... You must keep in mind that there are biological factors at work. Once the chick pips through the air sac, it starts absorbing the yoke. It takes a lot of energy to pip, then it draws energy from the yoke. It must absorb all of it to be able to turn inside the shell to zip. If you open too early you can chance a rupture of not only the yoke sac, but also damage the chick in the process.

YOU must remember that NATURE was hatching eggs LONG before we got incubators, and you must let nature do her thing. The incubator is just acting like an hen. I've had a lot of broody hens in my past, and never have I seen one of those try to help a chick out of an egg. Generally she just sits, which is what you should do.

Last hatch 11 out of 11, only helped one it was the last egg, and all I did was pull a little of the shell away from the membrane, She did the rest.

My 2 cents.. FLAME away if you dare.

 

[debilorrah]

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If it works for you, then you can keep on doing it that way. I personally feel it is irresponsible information to pass out to the masses. Good luck with your hatches!

Looking back on my records.. Generally the first pip is followed by the first zip about 20-23 hours... You must keep in mind that there are biological factors at work. Once the chick pips through the air sac, it starts absorbing the yoke. It takes a lot of energy to pip, then it draws energy from the yoke. It must absorb all of it to be able to turn inside the shell to zip. If you open too early you can chance a rupture of not only the yoke sac, but also damage the chick in the process.

YOU must remember that NATURE was hatching eggs LONG before we got incubators, and you must let nature do her thing. The incubator is just acting like an hen. I've had a lot of broody hens in my past, and never have I seen one of those try to help a chick out of an egg. Generally she just sits, which is what you should do.

Last hatch 11 out of 11, only helped one it was the last egg, and all I did was pull a little of the shell away from the membrane, She did the rest.

My 2 cents.. FLAME away if you dare.

 

[Katy]

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Helping 4 hours after the chick's first pip is too fast in my opinion which is what another poster recommended. I was aware it had been 20 hours when you posted. Opening the incubator could very well have been what caused it to be shrink wrapped....especially when using a foam incubator. I don't help chicks hatch anymore.....most of the time there is a reason they can't hatch on their own such as leg or feet issues. Everyone has to decide what is right for them....for me it's leaving the lid on and letting them hatch on their own. I know that is hard tho when you're just starting out. Baralak gave you very good advice and info on why it takes as long as it does for a chick to hatch sometimes.

 

[Katy]

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No flaming just agreement with you.