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[cutipatooti]

Since we just had chickenstock and a lot of us came home with new chicks or had our own leftovers I'v been thinking. I'm sure we all do what we can for bio security and all, plus all that's going on with avian flu. What is every ones opinion on MG and or MS. I just found out about it when researching precautions to avian flu. I have never really had any illness in my flock that I know of. Yet mine is only about a year old and they are completely free range. Mine are usually picked off by predators, just lost my Sulmtaler Pullet to something last night. Sent the dog out while I was trying to throw on boots, it's screaming woke me up. Dog stood there waiting to come back in. Never cought a glimps of what it was, I'm sure it will be back. Had one chicken start roosting in the trees and more are starting to follow suit. The pullet had not even started laying yet. 3 roosters out there destined for the pot and I loose the pullet the first night she decides to give it a try.

 

[rancher hicks]

Hi!
Anyone know the answer to this question from another thread?
Thanks!
Okay folks so I hear that giving vitamin B complex is a lot better than the soluble multi vitamin/electrolytes. I have just purchase of durvet maxi-B 1000 but not quite sure how many CC/ML to give per bird. I was thinking of giving .5CC per bird since I have large fowl but thought I would check with everyone else's opinions.

I don't recommend vitamins unless there is a reason to do so. The occasional adding to their drinking wAter won't hurt,but unless you have specific problem I would save .y money. Please keep in mind folks that manufactures troll these sites to ply their trade. Some things advised here are gimmicks to get you spend money.

 

[rancher hicks]

Since we just had chickenstock and a lot of us came home with new chicks or had our own leftovers I'v been thinking. I'm sure we all do what we can for bio security and all, plus all that's going on with avian flu. What is every ones opinion on MG and or MS. I just found out about it when researching precautions to avian flu. I have never really had any illness in my flock that I know of. Yet mine is only about a year old and they are completely free range. Mine are usually picked off by predators, just lost my Sulmtaler Pullet to something last night. Sent the dog out while I was trying to throw on boots, it's screaming woke me up. Dog stood there waiting to come back in. Never cought a glimps of what it was, I'm sure it will be back. Had one chicken start roosting in the trees and more are starting to follow suit. The pullet had not even started laying yet. 3 roosters out there destined for the pot and I loose the pullet the first night she decides to give it a try.

practising bio sec. Is smart. Research a closed flock. As for press how you keep your flock is up to you. I personally do all I can to keep my birds safe. The use of even a small run can help train them to use the coop and not roost in trees. Once my birds are acclimated to the run/coop then I can let them range in the larger yard.

 

[boskelli1571]

Since we just had chickenstock and a lot of us came home with new chicks or had our own leftovers I'v been thinking. I'm sure we all do what we can for bio security and all, plus all that's going on with avian flu. What is every ones opinion on MG and or MS. I just found out about it when researching precautions to avian flu. I have never really had any illness in my flock that I know of. Yet mine is only about a year old and they are completely free range. Mine are usually picked off by predators, just lost my Sulmtaler Pullet to something last night. Sent the dog out while I was trying to throw on boots, it's screaming woke me up. Dog stood there waiting to come back in. Never cought a glimps of what it was, I'm sure it will be back. Had one chicken start roosting in the trees and more are starting to follow suit. The pullet had not even started laying yet. 3 roosters out there destined for the pot and I loose the pullet the first night she decides to give it a try.

I hear you! I have to say I've been to several shows etc. and the birds have looked ratty & unhappy. All the birds I saw at Chickenstock looked healthy & happy - kudos to everyone!
My new chicks are in a separate coop for at least 30 days. Good hand washing between each coop etc. As for free range - my older ladies are as free range as they wish to be. The coop is situated in a barn, so they can stay in the barn or wander around the garden if they desire. When they initially started going out, I kept them in their 'Florida room' so they would go to roost at night. I have never had any of the girls want to roost outside, they enjoy the safety of the coop too much!

The only bird I lost was to a badly infected rat bite that I didn't pick up on until too late

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[Gramma Chick]

Maybe I'll leave her in the lower nest box and see how she does with protecting them. She's been a pretty good defender of the nest, though I do occasionally have to remove a stubborn EE that is intent on hopping onto the nest as soon as the broody BCM hops off for a moment's respite. The thing is...that stupid EE will sit for a few hours on a clutch of eggs but then abandon the nest.

Have any netting ? you can cover the box ...so she wont be bothered ..
She will probably be okay ..as she is ...
I always over- protect

 

[cutipatooti]

They were going into the big coop with the older chickens but then as they were getting closer to maturing the boys show the young roos who's boss and wait by the coop door at night to ambush the young females. I would have processed more roos if not for chickenstock. I'm hoping I can get some done this weekend but I have birthday parties on sat and sun. They just get tired of being harassed and go into the trees. Although I have never seen them get this high up and so far from the coop. If I could get at them I would put them back in. They will probably start to go back in when I get rid of my extra roos. my concern with MG and MS is that it can be carried by birds showing no symptoms, so quarantine won't stop it or even let you know it's there, also it's said to be present in 90% of backyard flocks. That would mean that if your birds carry it and you get new birds that don't have it the new birds get sick and it looks like whoever sold you the birds gave you sick birds or you don't have it and you get birds that carry it yours get sick after quarantine and the new birds stay healthy or have a flair up due to the stress of the move.

Has anyone had this happen. Since it's mostly non fatal is it no a big deal. I hear it can even be passed in hatching eggs. Also NPIP does not test for it. Plus it is spread by wild birds. Am I worrying over nothing. I have heard people culled their entire flocks over this. Just to reassure everyone my birds ar fine just found out they can catch something you won't know about if you quarantine them. You could bring it home from tractor supply. Maybe that why 90% of backyard chickens have it. At that rate isn't it better to have a flock that carries it and shows no symptoms then to have a clean flock that will become ill if exposed. Should I just stick to wording about things that can kill your chickens like mereks or new castle?

 

[Pyxis]

They were going into the big coop with the older chickens but then as they were getting closer to maturing the boys show the young roos who's boss and wait by the coop door at night to ambush the young females. I would have processed more roos if not for chickenstock. I'm hoping I can get some done this weekend but I have birthday parties on sat and sun. They just get tired of being harassed and go into the trees. Although I have never seen them get this high up and so far from the coop. If I could get at them I would put them back in. They will probably start to go back in when I get rid of my extra roos. my concern with MG and MS is that it can be carried by birds showing no symptoms, so quarantine won't stop it or even let you know it's there, also it's said to be present in 90% of backyard flocks. That would mean that if your birds carry it and you get new birds that don't have it the new birds get sick and it looks like whoever sold you the birds gave you sick birds or you don't have it and you get birds that carry it yours get sick after quarantine and the new birds stay healthy or have a flair up due to the stress of the move.

Has anyone had this happen. Since it's mostly non fatal is it no a big deal. I hear it can even be passed in hatching eggs. Also NPIP does not test for it. Plus it is spread by wild birds. Am I worrying over nothing. I have heard people culled their entire flocks over this. Just to reassure everyone my birds ar fine just found out they can catch something you won't know about if you quarantine them. You could bring it home from tractor supply. Maybe that why 90% of backyard chickens have it. At that rate isn't it better to have a flock that carries it and shows no symptoms then to have a clean flock that will become ill if exposed. Should I just stick to wording about things that can kill your chickens like mereks or new castle?

I had some weird respiratory thing show up last summer, and I culled it out. It was probably MG. It first showed up in my brooders, from eggs I hatched myself. I was having a rodent problem in there at the time, and rodents can carry it too, so it either came from the mice or from some goslings I hatched from shipped eggs. NPIP doesn't test for it. Usually the stress of bringing a new bird home causes them to show symptoms if they carry it, so that's why quarantine is important - you will see that they are sick before they are introduced to your flock, and you can cull accordingly. It can pass through eggs to chicks and so it causes low fertility and high embryo death.

I also think that statistic about 90% of backyard flocks carrying it is wrong. I don't know anyone who's been tested for it, and how would they know unless they were testing? I know my flock is clean. If it wasn't, every new bird coming in here should be getting sick, and that's not happening. If 90% of flocks have it, some of the new birds I've gotten in from other breeders, at least 90% of them, should be sick and should have gotten my flock sick, and that hasn't happened either, knock on wood.

 

[cutipatooti]

I had some weird respiratory thing show up last summer, and I culled it out. It was probably MG. It first showed up in my brooders, from eggs I hatched myself. I was having a rodent problem in there at the time, and rodents can carry it too, so it either came from the mice or from some goslings I hatched from shipped eggs. NPIP doesn't test for it. Usually the stress of bringing a new bird home causes them to show symptoms if they carry it, so that's why quarantine is important - you will see that they are sick before they are introduced to your flock, and you can cull accordingly. It can pass through eggs to chicks and so it causes low fertility and high embryo death.

Thanks for sharing your experience. It gave me comfort knowing I will probably know it if it were to show up.

 

[LadyHawkeAvry]

Since we just had chickenstock and a lot of us came home with new chicks or had our own leftovers I'v been thinking. I'm sure we all do what we can for bio security and all, plus all that's going on with avian flu. What is every ones opinion on MG and or MS. I just found out about it when researching precautions to avian flu. I have never really had any illness in my flock that I know of. Yet mine is only about a year old and they are completely free range. Mine are usually picked off by predators, just lost my Sulmtaler Pullet to something last night. Sent the dog out while I was trying to throw on boots, it's screaming woke me up. Dog stood there waiting to come back in. Never cought a glimps of what it was, I'm sure it will be back. Had one chicken start roosting in the trees and more are starting to follow suit. The pullet had not even started laying yet. 3 roosters out there destined for the pot and I loose the pullet the first night she decides to give it a try.

Like you, my flock has been closed this year. All my new birds came in as eggs. I will be introducing more young stock this year, however. I have a quarantine pen set up, but with a free range flock that has daily interaction with wild birds, my biggest risk comes from the crows and passerines that take advantage of the leftover feed. Judging by the number of infected poultry facilities, I would suspect that stressed birds in cramped conditions would be at highest risk, and that the isolated farm cases were a result of infection by native wildlife. The state appears to be thinking that as well, with their ban on poultry competitions at all fairs within the state this year - large quantities of stressed birds in enclosed spaces...

Sorry to hear about your pullet! I had been barely sleeping for over a week and doing hourly checks on the big birds outside (my chickens are locked inside at night) - having cleared out the weasel, I just had the nest raiding skunk left. Even with me shooting him with a pellet gun and the large waterfowl attempting to escort him off of the property, he was still sneaking around. I got out the quietest of my .22 rifles, and was set to end problem, when shortly after dusk there was a shotgun blast. Haven't seen him since... One of the other local poultry owners solved the problem...

 

[aalissa]

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Please when talking about disease someone use the full name at some point, so we (newbies) can look it up.

WHAT IS MS???

What is MG??? I'm assuming upper respiratory illnesses?