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[stonykill]

http://www.biofortified.org/resources/genetic-engineering-companies/

The Big Six

These six companies are the major players in agricultural genetic engineering in the private sector. Many of them have extensive plant breeding operations across the world, and then add transgenic traits to the varieties they breed.

• Monsanto (NYSE: MON) is based in St. Louis, Missouri. Monsanto has the largest market share of GE crops in the world.
• Pioneer Hi-Bred International is based in Johnston, Iowa. Pioneer is a subsidiary of DuPont (not publicly traded).
• Syngenta AG (NYSE:SYT) is based in Basel, Switzerland.
• Dow Agrosciences is based in Indianapolis, Indiana. Dow Agrosciences is a subsidiary of Dow Chemical (NYSEOW).
• BASF (OTC:BASFY) is based in Ludwigshafen, Germany. While primarily a chemical company, they are rapidly expanding their biotechnology division.
• Bayer Cropscience is based in Monheim, Germany. Bayer Cropscience is a subsidiary of Bayer (OTC:BAYRY).

Other Companies

There are a lot more companies working on genetic engineering than just the Big Six. Many of them study individual traits, and if successful in their research, may license their technology to larger companies that can incorporate it into their crops. Some are developing their own varieties and breeds and seeking regulatory approval.
United States

• Aqua Bounty is based in Waltham, Massachusetts. They develop improved fish for aquaculture, and are close to obtaining approval for the first biotech animal for food production: fast growing salmon.
• ArborGen LLC is based in Summerville, South Carolina. They study the genetics of trees, from wood quality to restoring endangered tree species such as the American Chestnut.
• Arcadia Biosciences is based in Davis, California. They develop nitrogen use efficiency (NUE) for crops, as well as salt tolerance, and works on the healthful composition of foods.
• Exelixis is based in South San Francisco, California.
• Mendel Biotechnology is based in Hayward, California. They have developed a yield-increasing trait in soybeans using genetic engineering.
• Targeted Growth, Inc. is based in Seattle, Washington.

 

[Cass]

Some non-GMO seed sources:

~~NON-GMO SEED COMPANIES
Abundant Life Seeds
Amishland Seeds
Annie's Heirloom Seeds
Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds - rareseeds.com
Baker Creek Seed Co.
Berlin Seeds
Blue River Hybrids
Botanical Interests
Bountiful Gardens
Diane's Flower Seeds
Dirt Works
Fedco Seed Co.
Garden City Seeds
Grannys Heirloom Seeds
Harris Seeds
Heirloom Acres Seeds
Heirloom Seeds
Heirlooms Evermore Seeds
High Mowing Organic Seed
High Mowing Seeds
Horizon Herbs
Irish-Eyes
Kitchen Garden Seeds
Lake Valley Seeds
Livingston Seeds
Local Harvest
Mountain Rose Herbs
Native Seeds
Nature's Crossroads
New Hope Seed Company
Ommas Aarden - Heirloom Seed
Organica Seed
Peaceful Valley
Peaceful Valley Farm Supply
Pine tree
Renee's Garden
Richters Herbs
Sand Hill Preservation Center
Seed Saver's Exchange
Seeds of Change
Seeds Trust
Southern Exposure
Sow True Seed
Sustainable Seed Company
Tomato Fest
Turtle Tree Seed
Underwood Garden Seeds
Uprising Seeds
Victory Seed Company
Wild Garden Seed
Wildseed Farms
Wood Prairie Farm


Here is link to where I got this list: https://www.facebook.com/notes/savi...mo-and-non-gmo-seed-companies/334086699976625


I removed a few seed companies because the listing said that a small percentage of their seeds were GMO. Don' t trust companies like that. I was sorry to remove "johnny seed" and "territorial seed" as I have done business with them in the past....before they added GMO seeds to their stock. Now I won't. Their loss

 

[stonykill]

yes that is Bayer of Bayer aspirin fame. I discovered 15 years ago when I was in the plastics industry that they are the SAME Bayer that is into making raw materials for plastics. Of which ALL, yes ALL are carcinogens.
As you can see you simply can NOT buy from any corporation if you do not want to support killing people slowly

 

[LuvMyChicks1491]

I have come to believe that the over hybridization and GMO of particularly wheat and corn has affected many people. It wasn't too long ago I never had heard of celiac disease, but now I have several friends with that diagnosis. They can eat ancient wheats, but not the modern screwed around with wheat. These changes came about for greater productivity and profit, but now the plants are not what our bodies can easily process, since much of this change has happened in the last 50or about years, and we need longer than that to adapt. There are many more people who have sensitivities which are not diagnosed which create stresses in our systems which lead us to be more susceptible to lots of crummy diseases. Yes, it is well near impossible to avoid all this stuff, but at least we'll be able to eat regular Cherios!

I do hope that the tide will turn and things will start to benefit people rather than large dishonest corporations.

I do what I can without making myself crazy. Organic non GMO feed is priced beyond what I will pay. So I just do the best I can.

Celiac disease is when you can't have gluton. Most people that think that they have celiac's really don't. That is what a dear friend fo the family who has celiacs disease said. as well as my doctor

 

[stonykill]

Some non-GMO seed sources:

~~NON-GMO SEED COMPANIES
Abundant Life Seeds
Amishland Seeds
Annie's Heirloom Seeds
Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds - rareseeds.com
Baker Creek Seed Co.
Berlin Seeds
Blue River Hybrids
Botanical Interests
Bountiful Gardens
Diane's Flower Seeds
Dirt Works
Fedco Seed Co.
Garden City Seeds
Grannys Heirloom Seeds
Harris Seeds
Heirloom Acres Seeds
Heirloom Seeds
Heirlooms Evermore Seeds
High Mowing Organic Seed
High Mowing Seeds
Horizon Herbs
Irish-Eyes
Kitchen Garden Seeds
Lake Valley Seeds
Livingston Seeds
Local Harvest
Mountain Rose Herbs
Native Seeds
Nature's Crossroads
New Hope Seed Company
Ommas Aarden - Heirloom Seed
Organica Seed
Peaceful Valley
Peaceful Valley Farm Supply
Pine tree
Renee's Garden
Richters Herbs
Sand Hill Preservation Center
Seed Saver's Exchange
Seeds of Change
Seeds Trust
Southern Exposure
Sow True Seed
Sustainable Seed Company
Tomato Fest
Turtle Tree Seed
Underwood Garden Seeds
Uprising Seeds
Victory Seed Company
Wild Garden Seed
Wildseed Farms
Wood Prairie Farm


Here is link to where I got this list: https://www.facebook.com/notes/savi...mo-and-non-gmo-seed-companies/334086699976625


I removed a few seed companies because the listing said that a small percentage of their seeds were GMO. Don' t trust companies like that. I was sorry to remove "johnny seed" and "territorial seed" as I have done business with them in the past....before they added GMO seeds to their stock. Now I won't. Their loss

from the SAME FB page
*PINETREE (Superseeds) buys some seeds from Monsanto/Seminis. The list of the varieties are listed below:
SEMINIS GARDEN VARIETIES
44. PACKMAN BROCCOLI
48 EARLY DIVIDEND BROCCOLI
51 BUBBLES (DISC)
70 DANVERS HALF LONG CARROT
83 MINUTEMAN
8402 CHEDDAR CAULIFLOWER
133 SWEETER YET CUCUMBER
137 SWEET SUCCESS CUCUMBER
138 EARLY TRIUMPH CUCUMBER
142 SALAD BUSH CUCUMBER
151 DUSKY EGGPLANT
158 LAVENDER TOUCH EGGPLANT
20501 SIMPSON ELITE LETTUCE
215 RED SAILS LETTUCE
224 ALASKA MELON
22601 AMBROSIA MELON
230 FASTBREAK MELON
237 ANNIE OAKLEY II OKRA
239 CAJUN DELIGHT OKRA
257 MR BIG PEA
27101 BIG BERTHA SW PEPPER
274 RED BEAUTY
279 FOOLED YOU PEPPER
281 HOLY MOLE PEPPER
293 SPIRIT PUMPKIN
300 ORANGE SMOOTHIE PUMPKIN
340 AMBASSADOR SUM SQUASH
342 GLODBAR SUM SQUASH
34601 SCALLOPINI SUM SQUASH
347 SUNDANCE SUM SQUASH
348 GREYZINI SUM SQUASH
34801 PAPAYA PEAR SUM SQUASH
349 GOLDRUSH SUM SQUASH
350 LOLITA SUM SQUASH
362 TABLE ACE WINTER SQUASH
371 EARLY BUTTERNUT WINTER SQUASH
38001 AUTUMN CUP WINTER SQUASH
38202 HI-BETA GOLD WINTER SQUASH
389 ALPINE STRAWBERRY WHITE
390 BEEFMASTER TOMATO
391 BETTER BOY TOMATO
393 GOLDEN GIRL TOMATO
395 CLUSTER GRANDE TOMATO
400 CELEBRITY TOMATO
407 SUN SUGAR TOMATO
41401 POLISH LINGUISA TOMATO
446 SWEET DIANE WATERMELON
W120 STRAIGHT N NARROW BEAN
W130 COOL BREEZE IMP CUCUMBER
W479 THAI NIPPON TAKA HOT PEPPER

 

[stonykill]

meaning I don't trust that FB page or list at all. But then again.... I don't trust much....

 

[why do birds]

Picnic is at Tab's Chicken Obsession's house this year. She is a wonderful hostess and everyone pitches in to help. She will be putting up a separate thread regarding the picnic when it get s alittle closer. Date is May 17, 2014. (there was no picnic in 2013. I tried, lord knows I tried to get one going) Rome, NY is her location. And the road to a friend's house is never too long.

Germ phobic farmers. LOL THAT I gotta see. They do make totally enclosed cab tractors...with A/C to boot, actually. But I would think gloves and a face mask would be cheaper. Germs are only toxic to humans if they get IN the body....so wash those hands and your hair and you'll be fine. (Why do you think you always saw cowboys rinsing their heads under the outside water spigot in old cowboy movies. To remove the dirt (and the germs contained therein) from their heads before going in to eat.)

Thanks so much! I hope to make it! Our farm's in Rome, will be nice to meet neighbors. Rome is so awesome, we are simply thrilled about the opportunity to move there. We have met a few neighbors and they are the best. I'd love to help out for the picnic, if anything's needed/wanted. I'm active with our local church and son's private school. We have a really close group of parents, always helping out, doing lots of fund raisers, so am reliable and good at pitching in.
Gloves and a face mask, you're too cute! We did that when we had to enter the barn! Wouldn't want dust exposure. Maybe we should plan on a water spigot, put it in the building plans!

We were waiting to build before getting a tractor so it could go into the garage and be cleaned thoroughly before being parked. We thought about getting a tractor now but it would have to stay outside and get dirty.

So we will wait for now.

 

[rancher hicks]

My 2 cents: If I were in a 3rd world country subsisting on dirt I'd be grateful to eat GMO or any other kind of edible substance. However I'm in the USA so this scenario doesn't apply. Here's how I see the evolution of food. Go on sites like Eat Wild, and other organic food sites. Making mass raw product for large corporations isn't going to change. BUT...allowing chef's to purchase direct from the farm is still a possibility in our quickly becoming socialistic nation. We cannot market to the large companies, or we will be forced into the Monsanto GMO lawsuits and business. If we connect direct with the cooks, the chefs, the restaurants, with a healthier product we could obtain sustainable sales. My goal has never been to sell raw product, or animal carcass, although I would do this for restaurants. My goal is to create the best quality raw ingredients, make food, and sell the prepared product. Funny how dog cookies are probably healthier than human cookies, isn't it? Monsanto isn't going to dive into the apple pie that I baked, or the omlettes, or the bread, right?.
Our great dictator and his administration have tied our hands when it comes to production of wheat, soy, and other Monsanto raw ingredients. But we can still circumvent this socialism by selling local, or selling to restaurants, chefs, or selling prepared food. When we build our house we plan to have catering capacity in our kitchen on the farm. Why sell raw eggs at the farmer's market when we can sell egg products from unvaccinated, organic, non-GMO fed poultry? Better for us, better for our community.
As for the ? do I eat GMO? Probably, it's in everything. I want my chickens to eat non-GMO so that I can have non-GMO cooked food for sale for those interested. Our farm hasn't been active in about 10 years so I believe that we can be certified organic once we are up and running.

Our fields have been maintained by a local farmer and without any kind of pesticides or chemicals.

We plan to have a healthy ecosystem, we have a natural spring fed stream running down one side, pond, fruit trees, so are thinking of eventually getting ducks, and expanding poultry, have 1 dairy cow for personal use, goats or sheep, and a horse of course (for fun)! Currently we're working on the infrastructure and buildings. Hope to be up and running in a year.

Perhaps not, but if they can find a way to do it they will.

Apple trees are now being own and licensed. Cornell just came out with two new ones. One apple cost $1 at the Regional farmers market. You can not grow or sell the fruit without paying. If there is no expiration date to their patent they will own them forever.

Rest assured if Monsanto came out with a GMO apple that crossed pollinated with your trees whether you liked it or not, they would own all the apples trees in the country. What's more, apple trees are created by splicing. They will prevent you from splicing onto your own root stock.

This is even more so why we have to preserve the heritage lines and protect them.

As for third world countries, my opinion is they've got the same two hands I do. The trouble is government intervention and control. Something we see happening in this country. If we do not stop the ball that is rolling we all will be run over by it.

Just some things to think about.

 

[Cass]

from the SAME FB page
*PINETREE (Superseeds) buys some seeds from Monsanto/Seminis. The list of the varieties are listed below:
SEMINIS GARDEN VARIETIES
44. PACKMAN BROCCOLI
48 EARLY DIVIDEND BROCCOLI
51 BUBBLES (DISC)
70 DANVERS HALF LONG CARROT
83 MINUTEMAN
8402 CHEDDAR CAULIFLOWER
133 SWEETER YET CUCUMBER
137 SWEET SUCCESS CUCUMBER
138 EARLY TRIUMPH CUCUMBER
142 SALAD BUSH CUCUMBER
151 DUSKY EGGPLANT
158 LAVENDER TOUCH EGGPLANT
20501 SIMPSON ELITE LETTUCE
215 RED SAILS LETTUCE
224 ALASKA MELON
22601 AMBROSIA MELON
230 FASTBREAK MELON
237 ANNIE OAKLEY II OKRA
239 CAJUN DELIGHT OKRA
257 MR BIG PEA
27101 BIG BERTHA SW PEPPER
274 RED BEAUTY
279 FOOLED YOU PEPPER
281 HOLY MOLE PEPPER
293 SPIRIT PUMPKIN
300 ORANGE SMOOTHIE PUMPKIN
340 AMBASSADOR SUM SQUASH
342 GLODBAR SUM SQUASH
34601 SCALLOPINI SUM SQUASH
347 SUNDANCE SUM SQUASH
348 GREYZINI SUM SQUASH
34801 PAPAYA PEAR SUM SQUASH
349 GOLDRUSH SUM SQUASH
350 LOLITA SUM SQUASH
362 TABLE ACE WINTER SQUASH
371 EARLY BUTTERNUT WINTER SQUASH
38001 AUTUMN CUP WINTER SQUASH
38202 HI-BETA GOLD WINTER SQUASH
389 ALPINE STRAWBERRY WHITE
390 BEEFMASTER TOMATO
391 BETTER BOY TOMATO
393 GOLDEN GIRL TOMATO
395 CLUSTER GRANDE TOMATO
400 CELEBRITY TOMATO
407 SUN SUGAR TOMATO
41401 POLISH LINGUISA TOMATO
446 SWEET DIANE WATERMELON
W120 STRAIGHT N NARROW BEAN
W130 COOL BREEZE IMP CUCUMBER
W479 THAI NIPPON TAKA HOT PEPPER

Oops, missed that part. I do trust most of the list because I have seen many of those names over and over again on other lists. That list was just the best presentation for copy and paste. I always do my own research before I buy, and suggest that others do the same. IF the company has signed the "safe seed pledge" they are pledging that their seeds are non-GMO. Look for it on their web site before ordering.

 

[rancher hicks]

feel safe about buying seeds now?

I didn't feel safe before, why should I feel safe now.

Some of us on the Homesteader thread do share about seed saving. The trouble with GMO crossing is it can be genetically detected, so saving seed or crossing and creating your own variety/hybrid will be tainted, thereby letting them lay claim to your new variety/ hybrid.

I try to grow non hybrid varieties.

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