NY chicken lover!!!!

How do they flash pasteurize? Do they have a HTST?
I pasteurize mine by heating it up to 165 for 15 minutes, over board but not going to take any chances, don't want vinegar. I shake the trees and then pick them off the ground, wild apples the best for cider, some sweet some tart good balance. Use good champagne yeast takes it to 18%, natural ferment with no sugar added gives about 5%. Father in-law hand picks his apples and natural ferments.

They do fill carboys? !!!  I didn't have time to press any this yr, I've been wanting to call Fly Creek cider mill in Cooperstown to see if they would fill my carboys, hoping it would be cheaper then buying gallons.

I know there is a box thing it passes through before going in the bulk tank for bottling by hand. Some sort of pasteurization to make NYS happy.
It is Hollenbeck's Cider Mill in Virgil, just south of Cortland. I know gallons are $5.50, not sure what carboys would cost. It is always a variety of apples, guess there was a really tasty Macintosh press on Sunday. It is an old scissor style press, it's the main attraction for many people to watch. Only a chain draped across to keep people back, so they can see and hear the whole process. And get fresh pressed samples.
 
Probably the box thing would be a heating/cooling press, I run a few huge different ones where I work for milk, and cream, skim, whey. HTST, high temperature short time, could be seconds at temps at around 200 and then seconds later cooled back cold. Pretty high tech, but probably required of all cider mills now.
Should have pressed my own, hate paying that much.
Fly Creek is a water powered mill, has been pressing cider for 159 yrs. Haven't taken the tour or been there yet, drove by it before. Hopefully they charge less for carboys.
 
Hello, my fellow NYers! Can anyone please give me info (links would be great) on how or where I can find the NYS laws on shipping live adult chickens out of state? I'm having a hard time finding it and a fellow BYCer in WV would like one of my boys. Thank you!!
 
Hello, my fellow NYers! Can anyone please give me info (links would be great) on how or where I can find the NYS laws on shipping live adult chickens out of state? I'm having a hard time finding it and a fellow BYCer in WV would like one of my boys. Thank you!!

I'm a newbie so I honestly don't know much at all. I just wanted to acknowledge you and say hello! I'm sure one of the others may have some feedback when they're on.
 
Hello, my fellow NYers! Can anyone please give me info (links would be great) on how or where I can find the NYS laws on shipping live adult chickens out of state? I'm having a hard time finding it and a fellow BYCer in WV would like one of my boys. Thank you!!
Someone who ships would chime in sometime with more information...but I know that you have to have an approved poultry shipping box and I think that you will need to have the correct paperwork too. may need NPIP and I think the AI paperwork...but I'm sure that some one more knowledgeable will let you know better..

Welcome to the group
 
Okay, I have a question. Funny thing happened yesterday. I let the girls out to free range around 4pm and went out front to mow the lawn. I knew they'd be okay because our Pekingese who seems to take all animals including cats under her wing (no pun intended
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). I knew the Peke would keep the predators out of the fence line so they could feel comfortable.

WELL, after I finished mowing I went into the garage to get the leaf blower and one of the girls, my black and white EE we call The Countess Of Grantham ran across the yard and over the deck (which was a first for them because they usually stay at one side of the yard). Soon they all came and stared at me through the garage door wondering what the heck I was doing. I said hello and walked away.

I finished the leaf blowing and when I was through, I heard cluck, cluck, clucking and the neighbors staring confused trying to figure out what the heck it was. Hahaha There was The Countess on my chain link fence! I was firm and told her to "stay". I wasn't sure she'd even listen to me. I could see myself chasing a chicken through my neighborhood.
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I was at the birds mercy
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. She stayed put and I picked her gently off the fence and she seemed content while the others waddled on the ground behind me. I opened the coop and they all jumped up on the roost and went to bed.


It was like The Countess was saying, "Come OOOooon now lady! It's our bedtime!" it had just turned 6pm and of course it was dark. I got a kick out of it but now I'm wondering if I should trim one side of most of their feathers so they don't fly over the fence. Anyone have any input on this? I want them to have a little room to run outside of the coop for an hour or two. They all seem to go back nicely and when they are free I'm mostly present. I don't leave. Somehow I think if The Countess wanted to fly away, she would have done it right then and there. If I clip her wings will she get depressed (My husband utterly laughed about me getting concerned about chicken depression
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) ? What about getting up to her roost? Will they be able to fly up to the roost if one side is trimmed?
 
Hello, my fellow NYers! Can anyone please give me info (links would be great) on how or where I can find the NYS laws on shipping live adult chickens out of state? I'm having a hard time finding it and a fellow BYCer in WV would like one of my boys. Thank you!!
call or go visit the post office you plan on sending from. They should be able to tell you all you need.
 
Okay, I have a question. Funny thing happened yesterday. I let the girls out to free range around 4pm and went out front to mow the lawn. I knew they'd be okay because our Pekingese who seems to take all animals including cats under her wing (no pun intended
gig.gif
). I knew the Peke would keep the predators out of the fence line so they could feel comfortable.

WELL, after I finished mowing I went into the garage to get the leaf blower and one of the girls, my black and white EE we call The Countess Of Grantham ran across the yard and over the deck (which was a first for them because they usually stay at one side of the yard). Soon they all came and stared at me through the garage door wondering what the heck I was doing. I said hello and walked away.

I finished the leaf blowing and when I was through, I heard cluck, cluck, clucking and the neighbors staring confused trying to figure out what the heck it was. Hahaha There was The Countess on my chain link fence! I was firm and told her to "stay". I wasn't sure she'd even listen to me. I could see myself chasing a chicken through my neighborhood.
ep.gif
I was at the birds mercy
bow.gif
. She stayed put and I picked her gently off the fence and she seemed content while the others waddled on the ground behind me. I opened the coop and they all jumped up on the roost and went to bed.


It was like The Countess was saying, "Come OOOooon now lady! It's our bedtime!" it had just turned 6pm and of course it was dark. I got a kick out of it but now I'm wondering if I should trim one side of most of their feathers so they don't fly over the fence. Anyone have any input on this? I want them to have a little room to run outside of the coop for an hour or two. They all seem to go back nicely and when they are free I'm mostly present. I don't leave. Somehow I think if The Countess wanted to fly away, she would have done it right then and there. If I clip her wings will she get depressed (My husband utterly laughed about me getting concerned about chicken depression
lau.gif
) ? What about getting up to her roost? Will they be able to fly up to the roost if one side is trimmed?

There is always one isn't there? I have a RIR who has earned the name Dora the Explorer. I find her outside the fence, up by the road, in the main yard...there's no telling where she gets too! She always gets herself back home, although I'm resigned to the fact that she may be lunch or roadkill one day.
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I would think that even if your Lady does fly the fence, she'll be back under her own steam. They are very curious creatures aren't they?
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There will be no more free range time for the flock until their old coop is moved over by their new one. The silly kids won't go back to the new coop without me carrying them. Is there a chance that after a week or so of being carried to the right place they might learn?
 
HISIRISHGEM, when I clipped the wings of ours I still had two leghorns and one small EE getting over a four foot fence, had to put up a chicken wire over it. I don't think they will have a problem getting on a roost.
 

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