NY chicken lover!!!!

Spent the day almost finishing up the garden. I think we had our hot summer a couple weeks ago and dove right into fall....boy it's cold...
Found out my big garden expansion wasn't big enough. Probably didn't help I had way more taters to plant than I planned on, planted them a few weeks ago.
I stopped at Frog Pond in Bainbridge and bought a half pound of golden bantam sweet corn (Page's seeds out of Greene NY) for $7.25. Planned on only planting half and saving the rest for next yr, didn't look like that many seeds so I pre-soaked them all, big mistake, had to continue making rows, OMG! we're going to be up to our ears in corn....
Planted it all with kidney beans and great northern beans coated in inoculant, should give the corn a good natural dose of nitrogen. First time trying this, let you all know if it helps.


Years ago my father-in-law talked me into planting pumpkins with my sweet corn, Native Americans did this cause the big pumpkin or squash leaves keep the weeds from growing helping out the corn. Worked GREAT!!! no weeding, both corn and pumpkins grew unbelievable great.
Then came time for harvesting the corn....not cool...pumpkin vines all over the place, even hanging from the corn...it was difficult work trying not to damage the vines that still needed more time, corn was early, NOT trying that again...

The Iroquois believe corn, beans and squash are precious gifts from the Great Spirit, each watched over by one of three sisters spirits, called the De-o-ha-ko, or Our Sustainers, and planted them together.

"Corn provides a natural pole for bean vines to climb. Beans fix nitrogen on their roots, improving the overall fertility of the plot by providing nitrogen to the following years corn. Bean vines also help stabilize the corn plants, making them less vulnerable to blowing over in the wind. Shallow-rooted squash vines become a living mulch, shading emerging weeds and preventing soil moisture from evaporating, thereby improving the overall crops chances of survival in dry years. Spiny squash plants also help discourage predators from approaching the corn and beans. The large amount of crop residue from this planting combination can be incorporated back into the soil at the end of the season, to build up the organic matter and improve its structure."
 
I want to find a Cornish breeding group. I would love to have a sustainable meat flock. All my attempts so far at a "table bird" have been a bit small. With 7 of us it takes 2 normal sized birds, it's taking 4 of the ones I grew out.

Same here, 7 of us can put a dent into a large store bought frankenbird.

Cornish are a slow growing breed, very slow and uneconomical, much like these giants we have, and not very good layers. Giants are much larger and lay great, but slow to mature.

I will be keeping the Giants, but want a more economical breed to counter balance cost, debatable what that could be, German New Hampshire's, Delaware, White and Barred Rocks.... I chose naked necks.
Plan on keeping a line pure, BUT, crosses with Cornish result in hybrid vigor of faster growth and more meat, have heard a Naked Neck Cornish cross is a excellent meat bird. Cornish excel when crossed, you will not get the super fast growth of the frankenchickens but it will be faster than the pure breed, and meatier.

For you, there is someone (lpatelski) on the breeding for production eggs and meat thread that has been crossing dark cornish with cornishX hens and has had great luck at producing some fast growth able to hatch your own sustainable birds.

Slower growth gives you more flavor though, to each his/her own.
 
Thanks to all who helped with information about wry neck. She is still struggling, but after not walking yesterday she was up and about today. Still crooked, but moving around searching for treats. I'm not willing to buy prednisone for her. I'm sorry if that sounds mean. I have nutri-drench and feed her 1ml once or twice a day. I've given her yogurt or tuna or other special things each day and I keep her in with her group. The group enjoys the treats too. Tuna was a big hit. If the difficulty is in fact genetic then I will band her leg and not use her in the breeding group. It is so hard to watch her struggle and wait for her to get better. If she makes it through this her name will be StarGazer.
 
Spent the day almost finishing up the garden. I think we had our hot summer a couple weeks ago and dove right into fall....boy it's cold...
Found out my big garden expansion wasn't big enough. Probably didn't help I had way more taters to plant than I planned on, planted them a few weeks ago.
I stopped at Frog Pond in Bainbridge and bought a half pound of golden bantam sweet corn (Page's seeds out of Greene NY) for $7.25. Planned on only planting half and saving the rest for next yr, didn't look like that many seeds so I pre-soaked them all, big mistake, had to continue making rows, OMG! we're going to be up to our ears in corn....
Planted it all with kidney beans and great northern beans coated in inoculant, should give the corn a good natural dose of nitrogen. First time trying this, let you all know if it helps. 


Years ago my father-in-law talked me into planting pumpkins with my sweet corn, Native Americans did this cause the big pumpkin or squash leaves keep the weeds from growing helping out the corn. Worked GREAT!!! no weeding, both corn and pumpkins grew unbelievable great.
Then came time for harvesting the corn....not cool...pumpkin vines all over the place, even hanging from the corn...it was difficult work trying not to damage the vines that still needed more time, corn was early, NOT trying that again...

The Iroquois believe corn, beans and squash are precious gifts from the Great Spirit, each watched over by one of three sisters spirits, called the De-o-ha-ko, or Our Sustainers, and planted them together.

"Corn provides a natural pole for bean vines to climb. Beans fix nitrogen on their roots, improving the overall fertility of the plot by providing nitrogen to the following years corn. Bean vines also help stabilize the corn plants, making them less vulnerable to blowing over in the wind. Shallow-rooted squash vines become a living mulch, shading emerging weeds and preventing soil moisture from evaporating, thereby improving the overall crops chances of survival in dry years. Spiny squash plants also help discourage predators from approaching the corn and beans. The large amount of crop residue from this planting combination can be incorporated back into the soil at the end of the season, to build up the organic matter and improve its structure."
I look forward to next year when I can get a three sisters garden started. I'll have to remember your lesson on pumpkin. Maybe a summer squash would be better for us.

Regarding meat birds, I thought about keeping a cornish cross from this year to cross with my flock for some meatier birds. I just don't trust the frankenbird genetics. I've been a bit disturbed by them. I'm going to process them on Wednesday (8 weeks old) and then I hope to repair the paddock that has been trampled and caked with wasted food and poop. The wasted food is my biggest complaint. If these birds taste like heaven I still don't think I'll buy them again. With losses and expenses it will be a $15/bird experiment. If I did it again there'd be fewer losses because I learned from this but it is still too much.

I can't wait for the weather to warm up this week.
 
Thanks to all who helped with information about wry neck.. I'm not willing to buy prednisone for her.
That is your choice ....I just posted so you have that info ..I probably wouldnt either ..I would try other things 1st
Quote: I decided to pass on planting corn this year ...alls it did was draw the coons to us ...and they got most all of it I planted
We have a farmer near us that sells non gmo corn ...so I am going to buy more from him this year ....
He will give a discount if you want a bunch ....so we will buy some for us & the chickens at the same time
 

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