NY chicken lover!!!!

[Pyxis]

Err...I don't have one. Course, if you needed one, I would think you'd have to show it at TSC before they let you buy ducklings, and that big hatcheries like Metzer would know and would make you show it before sending you ducklings. I have never encountered anything like that.

Edited to add, these permits probably apply to birds native to the area, like mallards and Canada geese. I don't think domestic non-game breeds apply. And even with that, I own a domestic mallard, which I bought from a TSC in state, so...

 

[SunnysideupstateNY]

It seems like its meant for individuals that are raising them for profit, if you supply game birds or function as a hatchery. I think if you're keeping them for "personal use", you're probably fine.

 

[Glasshen]

There have been a lot of barred rock feathers everywhere. It seems that that trendsetter Stewie is at it again. She is the first to molt. There are already areas of skin visible, she looks embarrassed by the whole thing. Will the others peck her exposed skin, or are they blind to her nakedness. Does she need a sweater?

 

[Lynzi777]

Hi Everyone, Question about fertile vs non fertile eggs...I've been looking for more closely at my eggs now a days when I crack them open to cook them. You may have remembered me mentioning that one egg had a red dot on it and I wasn't sure what that was so I didn't eat it? Well I just read this on another thread.

"A fertile egg will have a small red dot in the egg white which is a cluster of blood vessels that the chick will develop from."

And today when I cracked open a few eggs I noticed this spot that looked different from the rest...





See how it kind of has that "donut" look to it with the lighter white ring around the dark white spot in the middle? Would you say that it's fertile or no?

 

[Nambroth]

Hello Fellow New Yorkers - I was talking with a co-worker this morning about chicken raising etc. He was interested in raising quail. He mentioned hearing about permit/license needed issued by the DEC. I went to the website to look, and to my surprise I see ducks and geese are on the list of species that need a permit.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/permits/25010.html

One license is $200 for 5 years and the other is $40 for 5 years. And a yearly report must be mailed in. Yet another reason to detest our state government. More fees and licenses and regulations.

Do duck and geese owners in NY actually get a permit? Is there something I am missing?

I interned with the DEC for a while. You only need a permit for waterfowl that are not domestic.... meaning all wild species native to the USA. Unless you are planning on keeping any native waterfowl, you do not need a permit (though you may need to band any birds you intend to sell-- that I am not sure on for waterfowl). Domestic mallards breeds that look like wild ones need to be toe-clipped, I believe, but that is not something I am 100% sure on (you'd have to call and ask).

If you have any concerns just call your regional office. They are usually very nice. Be clear on what species/breed you intend to keep and they will let you know.

 

[Cass]

Hi Everyone, Question about fertile vs non fertile eggs...I've been looking for more closely at my eggs now a days when I crack them open to cook them. You may have remembered me mentioning that one egg had a red dot on it and I wasn't sure what that was so I didn't eat it? Well I just read this on another thread.

"A fertile egg will have a small red dot in the egg white which is a cluster of blood vessels that the chick will develop from."

And today when I cracked open a few eggs I noticed this spot that looked different from the rest...





See how it kind of has that "donut" look to it with the lighter white ring around the dark white spot in the middle? Would you say that it's fertile or no?

Fertile. That's how you tell if they are fertile, that ring around the spot on the egg.

Red "dots" are blood spots from the hen, not where the chick is going to grow. I'm not sure how these things get started, but blood spots and "meat spots" are put inside the egg as it comes down the ova tract, before the shell is added. It happens and is the reason that eggs are candled by commerical chicken farms. And even with candling you sometimes still find a small blood spot in a supermarket egg. And beleive me, those are NOT fertile. Commerical egg farms keep their chickens in cages of 2 - 4 chickens each and they have never seen a rooster, much less have been mated to one.

 

[Lynzi777]

Fertile. That's how you tell if they are fertile, that ring around the spot on the egg.

Red "dots" are blood spots from the hen, not where the chick is going to grow. I'm not sure how these things get started, but blood spots and "meat spots" are put inside the egg as it comes down the ova tract, before the shell is added. It happens and is the reason that eggs are candled by commerical chicken farms. And even with candling you sometimes still find a small blood spot in a supermarket egg. And beleive me, those are NOT fertile. Commerical egg farms keep their chickens in cages of 2 - 4 chickens each and they have never seen a rooster, much less have been mated to one.

Ok so regardless of the red dot issue, looks like my hen's eggs ARE in fact fertile. Hmmm....better do some reading up on this. I'm anxious to try and hatch some chicks. LOL

 

[Adoravachick]

thanks everyone, I'm still celebrating...! I have to, it's so special, and my gang are so wonderful, really... lovely, tame, fluffy... It's been really therapeutic, raising them from chicks, it's ridiculous how much I adore them. it's so worth the wait! I am still waiting on 3 other brown egg layers and 3 EE's (2 LF, 1 banty) could be blue, could be green... so cool!

Congrats on the egg! It is so rewarding.

 

[Cass]

Ok so regardless of the red dot issue, looks like my hen's eggs ARE in fact fertile. Hmmm....better do some reading up on this. I'm anxious to try and hatch some chicks. LOL

It's not really the right time of year to hatch chicks unless you have indoor space to brood them for 6 - 8 weeks. Winter chicks have to be kept indoors longer than spring chicks cuz of the weather. THEN you have to time their introduction to the colder temperatures carefully. This is if you hatch indoors.

If you can get a hen to go broody for you (which almost never happens when you want it to) then you can hatch year round cuz the momma keeps the chicks warm and they are born out in the cold, so they acclimate faster/easier.

I think there is a thread on here about hatching, both with a broody and in an incubator.

 

[Arty]

I interned with the DEC for a while. You only need a permit for waterfowl that are not domestic.... meaning all wild species native to the USA. Unless you are planning on keeping any native waterfowl, you do not need a permit (though you may need to band any birds you intend to sell-- that I am not sure on for waterfowl). Domestic mallards breeds that look like wild ones need to be toe-clipped, I believe, but that is not something I am 100% sure on (you'd have to call and ask).

If you have any concerns just call your regional office. They are usually very nice. Be clear on what species/breed you intend to keep and they will let you know.

Thank you, Namboth, for your response. It seems if you sell birds or eggs ( within the definitions on the website ) you need the $200 permit. Once again, NY goes overboard on the regulations. Owners of ducks and geese ( as well as the other species on the website ) need to be watchful about these regulations on egg and bird sales.