Ok so i have been really scouring the net and the libraries for any info on Galliformes/Grouse so i stumbled on this website that has hundreds of publications of individual studies done on Galliformes/Grouse. and they look like it would have some SOLID info.......thing is they only let you see like the 1pg and you have to be part of a organization to obtain the info is what i have gathered. but ofcoarse they are willing to sell you the infor for like $25 for each publication. so im gonna go through the University and see if they can help me out. the link is http://www.jstor.org/action/doBasic...jcpsi=1&artsi=1&so=rel&hp=100&Go.x=15&Go.y=13 so i am wondering if anyone who is interested in these studies they should really try to get this ORG to release them to the public, i mean what harm could it do, most of those scientist would prob like a little more recognition for their time and efforts.