OEGB Colors

Thank you guys very much! Crele and silver duckwing are my two favorite varieties so it's good to hear that they can be bred together. I can't wait to get some more. I started with a silver duckwing trio, lost the rooster for unknown causes within a week of purchase. Lost a hen today to a hawk so I'd like to replenish my flock.
 
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The difference in the shade of color is that the hatchery males being that they need to mass produce them to be all creles, are homozygous for barring and have two copies which makes them lighter. ( Its the same was as a homo. barred Barred Rock roo is lighter than the hens who only have one copy of barring. So the show type crele roos are bred to only have one copy of barring which makes them darker and if bred to crele hens. They should produce half dark and half light males and half crele and half bbred hens. Is that the results you get with breeding with yours ?

No, I haven't really bred the crele color. I just started to get into the showing of the OEGB. What you said about breeding the crele is very interesting. Thanks.
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Hatchery bird
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This pic is a little blurry as I increases its size. His color is also washed out. I will find another one.

Which one were you saying is the hatchery bird, you have the lable in the middle. But the top one is Homo. Barred with two copies and the bottom is Het Barred with one copy.. like Chris said in the chart he posted for you, the Homo. Barred ones are Crele in the chart and the Hets are the Intermediates.
 
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If you breed a Crele roo ( this would be a Homo Barred roo) with a Silver duckwing hen you would get Crele hens and roos that looked like Barred Golden Duckwing.

Silver Duckwing roo on Crele hens gives Silver Duckwing females and roos the same as the other cross.
 
I had no idea about any of this. Very interesting. So the reason for the BB introduction is just to clean up the color. That means to brighten it? What would be other reasons?
 
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Yep, in a way you would be cleaning up the pattern about becucase Crele is Barred BBRed so you would be breeding back to the original color pattern and carrying over the barring gene which should help clean it up a bit more and being Het barred makes the red and black contrast a bit better.
 
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and here i am trying to breed and keep whatever i have pure as possible...


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if you're gonna try to breed and to keep the color and such, pick one or two colors... but if they're just going to be your flock and pets... get as many colors as you want... just understand that they aren't going to look like their parents... well... unless you get like, silver duckwings in different varieties like splash, black and blue... or get black blue and splash solid colors...
 
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You can cross any of those in the duckwing group that I mentioned an at least one of the sexes of offspring should be pure and look the same as the color pattern of at least one of the parents.

like Silver Duckwing roo on BBRed hens would give pure Silver Duckwing pullets and Golden Duckwing roos.
 
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By breeding a Crele back to a B.B. Red you are cleaning up the color and you will also be darkening the color of the over all bird.
Here is a picture of a "Intermediate" Crele.


( Not my bird )
( Louderback bird )
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Some people absolutely will not cross any, they want them as pure as possible, and you got others that may not have a pure bird on their place, but most people fit in the middle somewhere...myself, I like keepin colors pure, that is why I have lemon blues/brown reds and brassy backs/blue brassybacks...they are the same birds, just a blue variety and black variety...
 

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