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Selective breeding is debatable, for a lot of reasons. But to call it torture is, frankly, a bit silly, IMHO. Animals kept for selective breeding are not typically treated badly, they are typically treated well, as any other scenario would alter the results.

As for "mutating chickens," chickens today are already a series of mutations. There are only two or three wild birds that were bred to become what we now think of as chickens. They really don't mind being bred, I promise you.

Breeders do not mutate chickens, they select for desirable or undesirable mutations. What do you perceive as the process of mutating chickens, or any other animal, for that matter?

Exactly. None of the domesticated animals we have now would exist if not for selective breeding. Nobody would have farm animals, let alone pets, if not for those pesky breeders messing with genes and cultivating breed characteristics. Scientists now are doing the same thing breeders have been doing for thousands of years, just more efficiently (because they have the knowledge of genetics, which Gregor Mendel established in the late 1800's) and with more specific goals.

If breeding "naked chickens" doesn't diminish the quality of life for the chicken (and perhaps even improves it) or the quality of its meat for the people who are consuming it, then what's the problem? There isn't one, so far as I can see. If the problem is factory farming, then go after factory farming in general-- there's plenty of fodder there before even raising the question of whether the chickens have feathers or not.

No, the one i watched they said they tested them and did all sorts of things trying to make them bald. it even said they had to kill a bunch of them to test them. Once again i never said that "selective breeding" or thembeing bald was torture.
 
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This is debatable. And I have said that the one i watched they tested them not selective breeding. I could care less if someone selective breeds there birds but testing them "and killing them the scientific way" i think is wrong.
Please, i do NOT think that them being bald is wrong just that testing them is.
That is just my opinion.
 
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"Testing" could mean anything. And "all sorts of things" would pretty much have to be limited to messing with the genetics, as hopefully the scientists know that plucking a chicken won't make it give birth to little bald chickens.
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Our many project breeders on this site are testing thier birds all the time- testing crosses, testing fertility of specific birds, testing whether they breed true, testing whether they can breed out a charecterisitic, enhance a charecteristic. When the governement or scientists do this why does it become wrong or distasteful? Keystonepaul
 
Americana_chick, Could you please post a link to the video that shows these chickens being "tested...and doing all sorts of things"?
I'm just trying to figure out what information you base your argument on.

Now my two cents. I don't think that recreating this natural mutation is cruel-if and only if- the needs of these chickens are met. I personally have a hairless cat. She doesn't have a problem with her hairlessness, but she does require more care. Her skin produces the same amount of oil a normal cats would, but because there is no hair to soak it up she must be bathed on a weekly basis.
What is cruel, is when people have hairless cats and don't take care of them.
The domestication process basically creates animals who are dependent on people to take care of them, to varying degrees.
A featherless chicken will need more care that a "normal" chicken, but as long as those needs are met I see no problem. However, from a personal stand point I would not eat a featherless chicken that was raised in a factory farm environment. Those birds get covered in fecal matter dust, and they ingest it because their environment is covered in it too.
Of course, I wouldn't eat "feathered" factory farmed chicken either.
 
Rillion, yes they do! It is so funny to sit there and listen to her lick herself (cats have barbs on their tongue to aid in grooming).
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How is it any different from a NN, exactly? So it has less feathers than a "normal" chicken. As long as it's not hindering it from living it's fine. True, it can't reproduce properly. But that doesn't prevent it from living a normal life. As long as the owner doesn't live in a cold climate, it's fine.
 

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