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[mjgigax]

Im starting to wonder the same thing...

Welcome and Thank you for your service. We all like chatting about chickens as well!

So day 22 on the four bantam eggs. Yesterday three piped. I could visually see where one was starting to zip last night but this morning it was dead.

The other two aren't doing very much and I'm afraid to think they wont make it as well. I think the humidity go up there past 70 at one point but I cracked the window plate just a hair only enough to bring it down. That worked but I'm afraid I may have been too late. I have horrible luck with bantam eggs for some reason. Last hatch I was incubating a bunch for a friend and NONE of her eggs made it to lock down. I must be doing something that the big ones can tolerate but the little ones can't. I have yet to figure it out... So here goes a long day of waiting to see what happens with these two that are left.

Oh, the one bantam egg that was larger than the others is still in there. Nothing from it. ***sigh***

i have heard that bantam eggs need a little higher humidity than LFs.

 

[lonnyandrinda]

Rinda, that's what I use. I just open their mouths and squeeze it in. About 1/2" for an average sized bird, about an inch for a Brahma or Cochin sized bird. It's super safe and hard to OD any animal on it. It's easier just to snatch them up and dose them, that way you don't have to worry about them crowding around and taking everyone else's bread (whichnis exactly what mine would do).

THANKS! Most of my birds will need 1/2" then, probably 1/4" for the growers (3-4 months old) and 3/4-1" for my big breeds (jubilee orps and langshans). Correct me if I'm wrong on my guesses. I've been procrastinating figuring this out but I've got some growers sick and if they are fighting a parasite load on top of respiratory crap that would explain why I have lost so many of them despite bringing them in the house and treating them aggressively.

 

[greenbeetle]

At least tomorrow is going to be a little warmer thank God. Still have 2 months of winter. I think my silkies are thinking they are going to be house chickens,,,lol. Hope to have a few warmer days, would love to take them out in the yard to scrath around and have soome fun.

 

[muesky]

So I am looking at alternatives to using chemical wormers and antibiotics.. I found this article in a google search for organic farmers in Canada..
https://www.cog.ca/documents/Managing internal parasites in organic livestock.pdf
I think I am going to get a bag of granulated garlic to add to my birds food. With the garlic, DE and crushed peppers I am hoping to keep everyone worm free.. Also looking into finding a source for pyrethrum (derived from chrysanthemums) to add in extreme cases.. That is until I can get some plants established..

With the weather being so bad I am thinking I better wait for a few more weeks before I start some seedlings for the garden.. Since we are expanding the garden I need to decide all what I want to plant.. The soil still is not built up enough for corn but I am thinking we could grow soy. My goal for the garden is first food for Doc and I, family and friends, then chickens and if there is any left over trading for things we need..

For those of you who are gardening, what do you think about having food swapping? We are going to be planting a couple varieties of cucumbers, several varieties of tomatoes and peppers (to include an assorted selection of colored bell peppers, squash, zucchinis, carrots, onions, shallots, maybe potatoes and sweet potatoes.. The plan is to start a strawberry patch, and to plant blackberry, raspberry and blueberry bushes.. Of course they will not produce for several years.. This is the goal of course...

 

[muesky]

Oh and I have decided I would like to start up a small layer flock.. Of course I want some pretty birds but ones that are good layers.. Any suggestions??

 

[artsyrobin]

Oh and I have decided I would like to start up a small layer flock.. Of course I want some pretty birds but ones that are good layers.. Any suggestions??

i'm sure others will have their favs, RIR, Barred Rcok and EE's are my most consistant layers-

Granulated garlic?? hmmmm i need to do some research on it- i am hoping to go that direction with mine as well

 

[Kassaundra]

So I am looking at alternatives to using chemical wormers and antibiotics.. I found this article in a google search for organic farmers in Canada..
https://www.cog.ca/documents/Managing internal parasites in organic livestock.pdf
I think I am going to get a bag of granulated garlic to add to my birds food. With the garlic, DE and crushed peppers I am hoping to keep everyone worm free.. Also looking into finding a source for pyrethrum (derived from chrysanthemums) to add in extreme cases.. That is until I can get some plants established..

With the weather being so bad I am thinking I better wait for a few more weeks before I start some seedlings for the garden.. Since we are expanding the garden I need to decide all what I want to plant.. The soil still is not built up enough for corn but I am thinking we could grow soy. My goal for the garden is first food for Doc and I, family and friends, then chickens and if there is any left over trading for things we need..

For those of you who are gardening, what do you think about having food swapping? We are going to be planting a couple varieties of cucumbers, several varieties of tomatoes and peppers (to include an assorted selection of colored bell peppers, squash, zucchinis, carrots, onions, shallots, maybe potatoes and sweet potatoes.. The plan is to start a strawberry patch, and to plant blackberry, raspberry and blueberry bushes.. Of course they will not produce for several years.. This is the goal of course...

For a natural wormer have you considered green black walnut husk extract?



The prettiest layers I can think of are NN! lol lol lol But that could just be me. lol

 

[Sagetown]

They were getting to where I didn't hear them at all so I went ahead and helped with the zipping a bit. One is now out and fumbling around, drying off (YAY!) the other had started to zip but in the wrong direction. I started to help and could see inside and noticed it still has some blood veins that are needing to be shrunk. I didn't bother trying to open up to see the one that died. Breaks my heart when I feel like I could have done something but it was in the night and I had no idea. So sad.

Hey TRUES: I had to research after reading your post. Found some interesting notes. 1. For Bantams, turning the eggs several times a day, the first week. One said he turned them every 1 1/2 hours. So, don't worry about turning them too often during that 1st critical week.
2. Days Incubation : 19 - 21 days / Temp depends on forced air 99.3*, or still air 102*incubation-/+ .5*/ Humidity 50 - 60% / last day 70%. 3. Early hatches usually due to high temperatures. . 4. Late hatches / incubator too cool. 5. Too much humidity could drown the chicks. 6. Stop turning chicks 3 days prior to hatching.
Don't give up trying. You'll find the right recipe for it.

 

[Kyzmette]

Oh look, the bantam Brahmas were just waiting for me to ask about them! Awwww, itty bitty cutie!

 

[TRUE5]

So I am looking at alternatives to using chemical wormers and antibiotics.. I found this article in a google search for organic farmers in Canada..
https://www.cog.ca/documents/Managing internal parasites in organic livestock.pdf
I think I am going to get a bag of granulated garlic to add to my birds food. With the garlic, DE and crushed peppers I am hoping to keep everyone worm free.. Also looking into finding a source for pyrethrum (derived from chrysanthemums) to add in extreme cases.. That is until I can get some plants established..

With the weather being so bad I am thinking I better wait for a few more weeks before I start some seedlings for the garden.. Since we are expanding the garden I need to decide all what I want to plant.. The soil still is not built up enough for corn but I am thinking we could grow soy. My goal for the garden is first food for Doc and I, family and friends, then chickens and if there is any left over trading for things we need..

For those of you who are gardening, what do you think about having food swapping? We are going to be planting a couple varieties of cucumbers, several varieties of tomatoes and peppers (to include an assorted selection of colored bell peppers, squash, zucchinis, carrots, onions, shallots, maybe potatoes and sweet potatoes.. The plan is to start a strawberry patch, and to plant blackberry, raspberry and blueberry bushes.. Of course they will not produce for several years.. This is the goal of course...

Let me know if there is a swap started. I want to get a garden going so bad (esp. now that I will have the perfect fertilizer haha). Last year we put up a garden and it didn't get enough sun because of the trees in the back yard. Going to try a different location and see if it does any better this year. And try to keep the chickens from scratching in it... yah right.

Hey TRUES: I had to research after reading your post. Found some interesting notes. 1. For Bantams, turning the eggs several times a day, the first week. One said he turned them every 1 1/2 hours. So, don't worry about turning them too often during that 1st critical week.
2. Days Incubation : 19 - 21 days / Temp depends on forced air 99.3*, or still air 102*incubation-/+ .5*/ Humidity 50 - 60% / last day 70%. 3. Early hatches usually due to high temperatures. . 4. Late hatches / incubator too cool. 5. Too much humidity could drown the chicks. 6. Stop turning chicks 3 days prior to hatching.
Don't give up trying. You'll find the right recipe for it.

Hello Sagetown! I think I saw that you are new? If it was you then Welcome! If it wasn't then oops, sorry, welcome anyway! I appreciate you looking into it and posting the info. I am just dumbfounded on what is different. I honestly think it could be the incubator because these cheap ones don't keep the temp regulated but four of the five went into lockdown. I have no idea. I'll keep trying... I have been eye balling some silkie eggs on ebay for some time now and am dying to get my hands on them!

i tried doing it on the bread- not all of them got it- so each gets their own dose now

Sonny update- and a funny- when i get him out in the morning he will stay on the bed that is covered with a sheet- well, some of the ice slid off the roof making an awful racket- found him hiding in the closet behind the laundry basket, picked him up and he snuggled his head under my arm, poor boy!! He still a year to his full growth- he is going to be massive.



@TRUE5 keep an eye on them they don't dry out- how is hannah doing??

He sure is pretty! He was the largest of the three... and the next largest has been a brat. Pecking on some of the girls and pecked Thorin's comb so hard it was bleeding. Such a pill! Hannah is doing good. I was really worried that she might be getting a little depressed because I still don't put her out with the other bantams. I think she has lost some weight. When they start doing this I feel a sense of urgency so I will try to get with you possibly Monday. Even if you would like to meet tomorrow I could look into it... just "sneak" her out of the garage with no one else noticing.

Robin, two of the babies are doing really good and fully hatched. One has the chipmunk look to it and the other is yellow. Do you know what color they will be with that color of fluff? Wish I could sex them... no matter what though, we love them! The chipmunk was first to hatch and is pecking at the other lol. The other just wants to sleep after a long day, then peep and sleep again. Sweet babies!!!

Thank you again for them! My daughter has already told everyone that these are hers because they are Silkies. She's such a Silkie nut but secretly they are mine and I will let her think they are hers. haha