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[lynn1961]

I finished up with hatching chicken eggs for a while , I think so, well maybe if I sit down and do some chicken math I may find out that I am note done after all, I have a bunch of meaties and 2 day old to 5 week old large fowl, but they don't count do they ? Then the pullets that are getting ready to lay don't count, broodies don't count either do they ? Hmm, I realy don't have but 15 chickens and a couple of roos, but the roosters dont' count either do they.

 

[Cjarvis]

Wow. Now that sounds cool! Do you have a single bator that is that big, or are you doubling up?

Carl, I've been thinking about that comment you made about nobody who is serious about showing sells "show quality" hatching eggs, and it makes sense, even to somebody who doesn't show. Why would I give a leg up to my competition? In my boxing days, that would be like me saying when I throw my jab, it leaves me wide open to a left hook because I had a habit of dropping my right. Plenty of fighters figured that out on their own, so why help them out?

I got hit with enough of them until I finally stopped that painful habit, though.

I would guess somebody is selling eggs from their less-than-best, and keeping the best for themselves. Makes sense to me, anyway.

I have 2 Incubators each are 1800, I have extra larger trays I could use but don't that would make them 2200 but I do not see the point.

On teh "Show Quality eggs" subject, here is how things really work.
Oct. - Feb. you hatch for males,
Mar.- July you hatch for pullets
A 10% keeper and 5% show bird is a good number from very well established lines and proven breeder pens.
Based on color (variety) the females from a male hatch are useless for anything but breeding and vice versa, you make sacrifices in color or body in one sex to get a desired result in the other.
If a serious showman were to sell eggs and even a small number of chicks there may not be anything to show that year. If they are sold during prime breeding and hatching season they would have skip the show due to lack of birds timed for the show.
You see you want cockrells 10-11 months of age and cocks at 12-15 months to be in prime feather and condition. Hens you need right at 12-14 months and pullets right before POL (6 months) so to make shows in Nov and Dec that is different birds, and Feb. March and April are all different birds. If you sell eggs now you don't have the fall birds needed for show.
Breeding a show male to a show female is always a train wreck and does not work for type or color. It just doesn't work that way. So if someone were truly selling eggs from thier Show stock breeders they should be able to identify if you could expect good males or females from teh hatch and what the common problems you might see are as well.

 

[lynn1961]

On the south side, the roof on the south side has translucent panels every other one, so even on cloudy days it is pretty bright in there, we are plannins to add electricity to it, when DH gets around to it that is, he stays hooked up pretty much all of the time, good thing he is retired, if he had to work a regular job he would be in a bad fix. He designs, builds and host websites as a hobby, builds furniture as a hobby and we have been remodeling our house on room at a time, I am glad I am still working, I don;t think I could take being retired !
I get a kick out of some of the things you post related to what you do as a living, I have woked in the medical fiels for 30 years and am still surprised occ. by some of the things people do. I imagine you see a lot of "interesting" things.

I've been reading some of that thread to learn how to improve my Light Brahmas. I have better than I started with but I still want them to be better.

 

[Cjarvis]

I finished up with hatching chicken eggs for a while , I think so, well maybe if I sit down and do some chicken math I may find out that I am note done after all, I have a bunch of meaties and 2 day old to 5 week old large fowl, but they don't count do they ? Then the pullets that are getting ready to lay don't count, broodies don't count either do they ? Hmm, I realy don't have but 15 chickens and a couple of roos, but the roosters dont' count either do they.

You are catching on.. Meaties do not count since they are freezer stuffers, for the same reason roosters and sale birds don't count. They aren't staying. Chicks never count because they don't lay eggs.
So as you said yourself you need some chickens.

 

[Ksane]

NanaKat,
I moved 5 LF eggs to the hatcher, the two OE did not make it they stopped somewhere around day 14
Mitzi,
I moved 8 Blue eggs, and 9 Dark Brahma.
Okieridge,
I moved 16 eggs to the hatcher.

Oh goody! All 9 Brahmas made it to lockdown? That's pretty good for shipped eggs.
I got 5 girls and 1 boy out of the Faverolles group you hatched for me-let's see if you can pull that off again

 

[Buster52]

I have 2 Incubators each are 1800, I have extra larger trays I could use but don't that would make them 2200 but I do not see the point.

On teh "Show Quality eggs" subject, here is how things really work.
Oct. - Feb. you hatch for males,
Mar.- July you hatch for pullets
A 10% keeper and 5% show bird is a good number from very well established lines and proven breeder pens.
Based on color (variety) the females from a male hatch are useless for anything but breeding and vice versa, you make sacrifices in color or body in one sex to get a desired result in the other.
If a serious showman were to sell eggs and even a small number of chicks there may not be anything to show that year. If they are sold during prime breeding and hatching season they would have skip the show due to lack of birds timed for the show.
You see you want cockrells 10-11 months of age and cocks at 12-15 months to be in prime feather and condition. Hens you need right at 12-14 months and pullets right before POL (6 months) so to make shows in Nov and Dec that is different birds, and Feb. March and April are all different birds. If you sell eggs now you don't have the fall birds needed for show.
Breeding a show male to a show female is always a train wreck and does not work for type or color. It just doesn't work that way. So if someone were truly selling eggs from thier Show stock breeders they should be able to identify if you could expect good males or females from teh hatch and what the common problems you might see are as well.

Oh. Well, that sounds simple enough, to me.

But I do see what you mean about selling "show quality".

I think.

 

[Cjarvis]

Now see, I'm the exact opposite. I raise only turkeys and LF, and don't even see the point of Bantams.

Room for all of us in this thread, isn't there? Differences make life interesting. It's what makes the world go round.

There is always room for someone wanting information or sharing usefull information. regardless of what you raise or what you raise it for some things don't change, god care, management, pen styles, feed experiences, general care and condition, parasites, and illnesses we can all share what has and has not worked and help each other out in these areas.

 

[lynn1961]

Well I am off to "do nothing " as DH has instructed me to do today, he told me this morning that I rolled around all night, grumbled around. So my do nothing so fas has been to feed and water all the animals, 3 loads of laundry washed, dried, folded and put away, cook a pot of ham and beans, baked a cast iron skillet of corn bread, paid some bills, did the grocery shopping, put gas in the car for the work week, and have been on here. guess its time to hold the recliner down and "do nothing " for a while, hope everyone has a great day.

 

[Cjarvis]

I'll go sprinkle them with Pullet dust, I think I have some left over...

 

[Cjarvis]

Well I am off to "do nothing " as DH has instructed me to do today, he told me this morning that I rolled around all night, grumbled around. So my do nothing so fas has been to feed and water all the animals, 3 loads of laundry washed, dried, folded and put away, cook a pot of ham and beans, baked a cast iron skillet of corn bread, paid some bills, did the grocery shopping, put gas in the car for the work week, and have been on here. guess its time to hold the recliner down and "do nothing " for a while, hope everyone has a great day.

Hey hey hey if you get bored you can come do nothing over here too, I could really use the help.