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Old duck egg bound or possibly sick. Need help identifying what might be wrong.

Galaxyfalcon

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May 25, 2020
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Hello!

I'll try to keep this short but there might be a little background info required to get a clear picture of what's wrong with our old lady. We call her Momma duck, and she came to live with us a couple of years ago. Before that, she had been at two other homes. She spent about 5 or 6 years with some acquaintances as an egg-layer, but they eventually got rid of their ducks so this little lady and some of her friends went down to my in-laws farm and lived on the pond there for a year or more. Historically, the pond had been very safe and there were many other ducks and geese down there, but they suffered a river otter attack and lost most of the birds.

Momma Duck here survived, but suffered a fractured toe during an otter attack. She came to live with us after that, and she laid eggs for about a year before starting to have "egg problems." She started laying fairy eggs, skipping days, and sometimes laying just yolk or passing soft shells. We took her to the vet and were told that she's just an old duck and these things are fairly normal for a duck of her age. We make oyster shells available to the girls all the same.

She would have good days and bad days, but generally would recover and pass any egg issues on her own. This spring/summer, she hasn't laid any eggs although we've seen her pass a few soft eggs or yolks etc it's been pretty scarce.

She's currently, by best guess, about 8 or 9 years old. She has arthritis in her bad foot and a recurring case of bumble on the better foot since she favors it more. She's been doing good in Spring and Summer so far despite not laying anything, quite perky and chatty. We've been keeping her separate from the drakes since she is their favorite and were over-mating her, so we had been letting her out in the morning and evening and locking the boys up during those times so the girls could go around all together. About 4 or 5 days ago she started having problems consistent with "egg problem" time — a lot of sitting, pumping her back side, heavy breathing etc. Since then she seems to have been getting more lethargic and I haven't seen her eating much, but she is drinking.

On Friday, I found her sitting alone a lot which is unlike her, and she wouldn't resist being picked up (also unlike her). She was also somewhat tense/stiff when I picked her up. Yesterday and today we've been giving her warm ebsom salt baths and last night we lubed up and massaged around her vent area to see if we could help her pass any egg material. She was really tense at first and was standing in the bath bowl, so we brought her inside and put her in the bath tub. She managed to poop twice and after that seemed a little more perky and energetic, but no eggs or egg material or anything.

Today she still seems subdued, and we have her fenced off by herself. She wasn't getting in to her water, but we put her in her 50 gallon tank to swim around in, and she was in there for a few hours just floating around. When she got out, she sort of just stood around in her little area not really relaxing.

At this point I'm not sure what's wrong—I'm not sure if it's egg issues, a bacterial infection, parasites, or just old age. I know she doesn't seem to be feeling good because she didn't come out of her area when we offered to let her out into the yard (she loves the yard) and she's really quiet and subdued, normally she chats quietly and happily. She's also refusing her favorite treats: meal worms.

I'm a bit worried but not sure what to try. Sorry for such a long post. Here are some photos from yesterday, last night soaking, and then this morning in her fenced off area:

Found her in a private place in a overgrown part of yard:

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Sitting quietly under the willow:
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Soak time:

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Saturday morning:
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What you need to do tomorrow is go to TSC and get Calcium gluconate it's a liquid and will most likely be in the cattle section. Buy a 1ml syringe too. Give her 1 ml of this. Usually, they will lay in 12 hrs or less. if this is what is going on. It may be she has an infection or is egg-bound hard to really k know. But at least using the cal glu you should be able to rule that out. it works to make the muscles contract.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/calcium-gluconate-for-egg-bound-ducks-preliminary.959537/
 
What you need to do tomorrow is go to TSC and get Calcium gluconate it's a liquid and will most likely be in the cattle section. Buy a 1ml syringe too. Give her 1 ml of this. Usually, they will lay in 12 hrs or less. if this is what is going on. It may be she has an infection or is egg-bound hard to really k know. But at least using the cal glu you should be able to rule that out. it works to make the muscles contract.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/calcium-gluconate-for-egg-bound-ducks-preliminary.959537/

Do we give it to her orally/in food or will we need to inject her?
 
Sorry I didn't see this. I give it orally with a 1ml syringe without a needle it works faster that way.
In case you have never done it https://www.backyardchickens.com/ar...dications-to-all-poultry-and-waterfowl.73335/

Okay we made it down to TSC and picked some up. They didn't have any 1mL syringes but I think we can make do with one of the 3mL ones we have here. Why types of side effects should I be looking for/what should I expect over the next 12 hours or so?

Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it!
 
Just make sure you put it into the proper hole. You don't want her to aspirate.

If she is having egg laying troubles most likely she begin to pass the egg. And hopefully no side effects. @DuckyDonna has used it quite a few times with her Runners and I never heard her mention any side effects. I've used it too and never had any with anyone i gave it too.

How is she today? When she stands does she have her tail down?
 
She's pretty subdued again, didn't seem interested in coming out of the run again. Normally all the ducks are excited to come out in the morning. Tail isn't down but she's fluffing/shaking it a lot today and yesterday, which she'll also do when she is trying to pass an egg sometime (or poop). I've been putting some nutri-drench in her water and moved it close to the corner where she's enjoying sitting so she has easy access to water. If we disturb her, she'll usually remain standing for a long period of time. I wonder if it's uncomfortable to sit? She seems really "stiff" if that makes sense. Just really uncomfortable.
 
Okay we 'successfully' administered the dose. She started struggling a bit and some sloshed out so we put a little extra in. I think we got close to the right dose. We put her in the swimming pool before putting her back in her quiet area but she just stood in the water in her "at attention" position. She's back in her quiet area now; she likes to sit or stand in the corners for some reason. She's got fresh water and food and I put some Sav-a-chick electrolytes in the water to help keep her hydrated. I offered her some meal worms as a treat and she nuzzled them but didn't eat any. Drinking a decent amount but she keeps refusing food.

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You may just be dealing with her end of life also. It's just so hard to know since we can't go by much other than their subtle hints at how they are feeling. The Cal glu won't hurt her so hopefully if she is having egg issues it will help. About all you can do is make her comfortable. The save a chick will surely help in the hot temps. You can get the 1ml syringes at most pharmacies since they are used by diabetics.
 

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