One sorry cayote

[horsejody]

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What double standard? I doubt that you will find many people on this forum that would advocate shooting to wound an animal so that it will crawl off and die a slow painful death. If you want it gone, shoot to kill humanely. I also doubt that anybody of us would kill a protected species, like the vultures.

 

[deerman]

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Yes shooting Buzzards is illegal in all 50 state no matter what the reason. Posting on here and with your pic. Dont be surprise when the law shows up.

Killing the coyote was the right thing to do. I also set my land back for wildlife, then how can you shoot Buzzards, just as easy to get them off your house just by going out and yell at them!!!!!!

 

[poultrygeist]

This is what you do to nuisance buzzards-- New Jersey law!Population Management. In those
situations where vultures have habituated to
harassment with pyrotechnics, and no longer
exhibit avoidance behavior, the scaring effect
of this technique may be restored by
shooting a few birds. Vultures are intelligent
and respond quickly when one or two
members of a flock are killed. Removal of
persistent birds from a local population
increases efficacy of harassment programs,
ensuring that birds remain responsive to
these techniques rather than habituating to
them. This technique reinforces ongoing
harassment, not to significantly reduce the
local vulture population. In most states,
vultures can be shot with a 12 ga. shotgun (2
3/4” or 3” shells, No. 4 lead shot) or a rifle
(centerfire rifles, such as .223, .270, or
.30-06). In NJ, only a shotgun may be
used to shoot vultures. Shotguns are the
typical method for urban/suburban areas, and
rifles may be used in more remote locales.
Use of a rifle to shoot vultures must be
specifically requested on the permit
applications, and included as a legal
technique on permits. Display of a dead
vulture in the roost trees or structure can
provide an additional deterrent effect, but
this condition must be specifically authorized
on permits. Nonlethal methods should be
employed prior to or concurrent with use of
shooting. Federal and state permits are
required before shooting can be
implemented. Permit applications can be
obtained from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife
Service (FWS) or from the USDA APHIS
Wildlife Services program at the address and
phone number listed above. The completed
application must be submitted to the FWS,
accompanied by a $25.00 processing fee.
Once the permit is obtained, comply fully
with its conditions, including the annual
report of the number of vultures taken.
Carry the permit with you during conduct of
control activities. I don't think beating a possum or raccoon upside the head is humane. Where now do you think I read that?

 

[CoopCrazy]

I thinks it time for a reminder of the rules... *This forum is for dealing with predators and pests. Period.

*If information is graphic, please note it in the subject line of your post so members can make a decision whether they want to open the thread or not. If you choose to open a thread with said warnings, it is not BYC's responsibility when you are offended.

*Dealing with predators and pests is not always pleasant. Although sometimes hard to do, please be as sensitive as possible when explaining procedures and results. Some younger members and/or squeamish adults will appreciate it.

*Although some ways are not considered ideal to some, it serves the purpose of removing the offending predator. If you have an idea or a helpful comment, please do reply. If it is a sarcastic comment about the disposal or capture of a predator, please keep your thoughts to yourself. We are not here to judge one another on methods or ways and means.

*That being said, please do not gloat or suggest torturous ways of killing for pleasure or indeed, post in such a way that your predator control can be construed as pleasure killing instead of simply taking care of a problem.

*Compassion will go a long way toward helping to educate and help solve someone's predator problem. No matter the reason, most members' birds are their pets and being a chicken doesn't make it less of a pet than a house cat or companion dog. Please don't lecture or hassle anyone about their losses. Glass houses......

*If you wish to suggest an alternate non lethal means of control, please share it in a non judgemental way that is a viable solution and not merely complaining about who was here first etc, IF it is directly related to the OP's request for assistance. If a non lethal alternative is offered, please be appreciative and remember that there are many ways and means and flaming a member for suggesting such an alternative will not be tolerated.

*It is the responsibility of the person with the predator to determine the legalities of what they do and that person will take ultimate responsibility. BYC does not condone illegal acts.

For instance, Trapping..this is a legal defence and it is not open for debate whether you prefer this method or not. This forum is designed as an aid to those who are having predator problems. It is not a debate forum on ethics.

*Please keep this in mind as we all learn from one another how to deter predators. Thanks

 

[deerman]

Good luck getting that permit, its not that easy. been there for geese!!!!!!!!!!

 

[horsejody]

Ok, I'm sure you got your permit in hand.

 

[The Chicken Lady]

I think that everything that could be said on this topic has been said at this point.

Thank you for your participation.