Oregon

[Zanna]

SO Beautiful I am Hyped .Zanna is there any way to tell the roos from the hens when first born ?

No although I am running an experiment. Some have a darker stripe on their heads. One person I have had correspondence with, those turned out to be all pullets in her case. I will mark my chicks and see how it turns out for me.

 

[AmericanMom]

With my Marans I can't tell anything till lockdown or shortly before. If I see mostly a dark mass filling the egg, they go in the hatcher.

on your hatch!

Candled last night, all 18 I got from you and the 5 mutts I added are doing great, Great veining and I could clearly see the little eye in all of them!!!

 

[Zanna]

Candled last night, all 18 I got from you and the 5 mutts I added are doing great, Great veining and I could clearly see the little eye in all of them!!!

YAY!!!

 

[RiddleMe]

Quote: BGmatt thats where i got my turkeys that had mg/ms so slander not so i have the vet info. MG can spread to humans and other animals
http://www.merckmanuals.com/vet/pou...lisepticum_infection_in_poultry.html#v3342226

Im sticking with those that give a hoot . as its cost me in the 4000 range to clean up 1 acre.
Its the Mycroplasma that is spread from one animal to another it lives in the liquid of the animals freezing does not kill it cooking does those that feed Raw to cats or dogs have found issues with the disease and they themselves have had issues so to not take this seriously is well Idiotic in my opinion im working with 4 state vets and the NPIP Head to help every bird get tested for all disease no matter where they live ,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycoplasma
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...oplasma-bacteria-tied-to-chronic-illness.aspx
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/diseaseinfo/mycoplasmapneum_t.htm
Tammy - you may want to read further wrt your comments I put in bold. Although people, dogs, cats, etc can all get mycoplasma, that's a general term for an entire genus of bacteria that includes 120+ species. M. gallisepticum, ie MG, the mycoplasma that you are specifically discussing, is an avian mycoplasma and has not been shown in any tests to be zoonotic, meaning it is host specific (chickens, turkeys, wild birds, etc). So while people, dogs, cats might transmit the bacteria, they won't be infected. I'm not sure if the same is true of the other forms of avian mycoplasma (M. synoviae, M. meleagridis, and M. iowae) sometimes discussed on BYC, they don't tend to have as high of a financial impact to commercial operations so I don't believe they have been tested as extensively.

 

[Tammy N]

Quote: BGmatt thats where i got my turkeys that had mg/ms so slander not so i have the vet info. MG can spread to humans and other animals
http://www.merckmanuals.com/vet/pou...lisepticum_infection_in_poultry.html#v3342226

Im sticking with those that give a hoot . as its cost me in the 4000 range to clean up 1 acre.
Its the Mycroplasma that is spread from one animal to another it lives in the liquid of the animals freezing does not kill it cooking does those that feed Raw to cats or dogs have found issues with the disease and they themselves have had issues so to not take this seriously is well Idiotic in my opinion im working with 4 state vets and the NPIP Head to help every bird get tested for all disease no matter where they live ,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycoplasma
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...oplasma-bacteria-tied-to-chronic-illness.aspx
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/diseaseinfo/mycoplasmapneum_t.htm
Tammy - you may want to read further wrt your comments I put in bold. Although people, dogs, cats, etc can all get mycoplasma, that's a general term for an entire genus of bacteria that includes 120+ species. M. gallisepticum, ie MG, the mycoplasma that you are specifically discussing, is an avian mycoplasma and has not been shown in any tests to be zoonotic, meaning it is host specific (chickens, turkeys, wild birds, etc). So while people, dogs, cats might transmit the bacteria, they won't be infected. I'm not sure if the same is true of the other forms of avian mycoplasma (M. synoviae, M. meleagridis, and M. iowae) sometimes discussed on BYC, they don't tend to have as high of a financial impact to commercial operations so I don't believe they have been tested as extensively.
According to the state vet they are finding that the microplasma Gallisepticum can spread to cats and dogs that are fed Raw chicken .
the disease can also be contacted threw liquids from Foul . so where would i like to look up ? do you have the new findings of 2013 sitting in front of you Like i said i am working with some Vets and Corrdinator Andy rhorer . on getting everyone having to test for NPIP Protacal is Total removal of all Foul and some have been doing Just that . 3 hatcheries in the USA are Clean 100% 1 in New york , Hoovers and one in HI . Pretty sad since i believe that is this was actually looked at and People actually did their Jobs as Breeders we wouldnt be eating sick aniamls or eggs from sick animals . to me those that dont are just plan old Lazy and not worth my time

 

[SavageDestiny]

According to the state vet they are finding that the microplasma Gallisepticum can spread to cats and dogs that are fed Raw chicken .
the disease can also be contacted threw liquids from Foul . so where would i like to look up ? do you have the new findings of 2013 sitting in front of you Like i said i am working with some Vets and Corrdinator Andy rhorer . on getting everyone having to test for NPIP Protacal is Total removal of all Foul and some have been doing Just that . 3 hatcheries in the USA are Clean 100% 1 in New york , Hoovers and one in HI . Pretty sad since i believe that is this was actually looked at and People actually did their Jobs as Breeders we wouldnt be eating sick aniamls or eggs from sick animals . to me those that dont are just plan old Lazy and not worth my time

Isn't it true though that MG can be spread through wild birds? Thought I read somewhere that wild finches in Portland were testing positive for MG. It seems like it'd be impossible to fully guarantee that no birds in a flock ever had MG if they got to go outside. We can't test every wild finch in Oregon...

 

[BGMatt]

Isn't it true though that MG can be spread through wild birds? Thought I read somewhere that wild finches in Portland were testing positive for MG. It seems like it'd be impossible to fully guarantee that no birds in a flock ever had MG if they got to go outside. We can't test every wild finch in Oregon...

It is true. And that's why it's a bit silly to worry about. Unless your flock is in a totally controlled environment (no wild birds or rodents which can carry it as well), they can and will be exposed to it.

 

[Sonja73]

How can you possibly make the statement that unless in a controlled environment "They can and WILL be exposed to it."? Name one scientific study, or any fact based material that backs that up. Do you know what amount of secretions necessary to contract the disease or how many times a wild bird has infected poultry or the percentage of wild birds have it?

Just because it can happen, doesn't mean it will. It is about education of MG or any poultry disease for that matter and bio-security. Simple things that anyone can do. I personally had a 15+ year run of being MG free with having a free range flock the entire time.

Ask any local, state or federal veterinarian how "silly" it is to worry about MG. Please don't believe the rumors that it is everywhere and everyone has it. That is simply not the case. But don't take it from me either.

Private Poultry Vet
Dr. Lynne Luna, DVM
[email protected]

Oregon Department of Agriculture
[email protected]
Phone: 503-986-4550
Communications: 503-986-4559
Fax: 503-986-4747


OSU Extension Service
Administration
Oregon State University
101 Ballard Hall
Corvallis, OR 97331-3606
tel: 541-737-2713

Maybe instead of BGMatt you should change it to MGMatt....

 

[BGMatt]

Neat. I like being called names. Can't bully me, sorry. I have talked to vets about it plenty actually, I'm not some newbie that goes around screaming about the sky is falling. Feel free to constantly fret about it though if it makes you feel better. I'm done commenting on something so trivial, just wanted to stop some of the ignorance that runs so rampant on here.

 

[SavageDestiny]

Personally I like the idea of periodically testing and culling birds that test positive or are showing signs of disease. Seems like that would be the best route for breeding birds resistant to disease. Because if wild birds have it, there is always a chance of outdoor chickens contracting the disease. Not a guarantee, but that chance is still there and always will be. If chickens can catch the disease from wildlife, which it seems like they can, the only solutions are vaccinating every single chick or breeding for birds resistant to the disease. I've always been against overvaccinating, so for me breeding for better birds seems like the solution.

Not that I breed currently, but I'd be happy to support someone who did and buy birds from them.