Organic Feed Issues

First let me say that I am sorry about your duck. I am curious though, did your vet specifically give a reason as to why organic feed is bad? Is it that organic brands tend not to have the correct nutrient % required for waterfowl? I don't feed organic, but I have never heard specifically that organic feed can cause heart issues and if he gave a valid reason it would be good for everyone to know.
 
Yes, that seems weird that he would call out "organic" feeds, as if they're all one and the same. That doesn't seem quite right.

I am also switching my ducks to Mazuri and am on day 2 of mixing it in with their old pellets. I noticed that yesterday they left most of the food all day long until late afternoon when they get fermented whole grains, which is their favorite. I'm sure eventually my ducks will come around to eating it - they took awhile to warm up to the pellets as well. Just slowly mixing a little new with the old and keep upping the ratio.
 
I thought it was weird too! He said he didn't think it was because the feed was organic specifically, but that the organic feed companies were smaller and were striving to meet the organic certification but not as experienced in the nutritional needs of birds (not just ducks). Which I thought was weird because I had been feeding them Dumour, and they are a big company. His knowledge seemed to end there because I started asking him about Niacin deficiency and excess protein/calcium, and he didn't have much to say.

To be fair, this was an emergency "fit-in" appointment at a vet I'd never been to (the only one who would get us in on short notice). The office was pretty busy, and he didn't seem like he wanted to spend a lot of time with us. I am searching for a good avian vet in Maine. If anyone has a recommendation, hit me up!
 
I am also switching my ducks to Mazuri and am on day 2 of mixing it in with their old pellets. I noticed that yesterday they left most of the food all day long until late afternoon when they get fermented whole grains, which is their favorite. I'm sure eventually my ducks will come around to eating it - they took awhile to warm up to the pellets as well. Just slowly mixing a little new with the old and keep upping the ratio.
Awesome! I am hopeful they will love it soon. They ate a bit more this morning than they had been, so I lowered the amount of the old food. Guess I'm just inpatient because my other animals have never had a problem switching food. I actually have to switch up my cat food periodically because they will all of a sudden decide they no longer like it.
 
I thought it was weird too! He said he didn't think it was because the feed was organic specifically, but that the organic feed companies were smaller and were striving to meet the organic certification but not as experienced in the nutritional needs of birds (not just ducks). Which I thought was weird because I had been feeding them Dumour, and they are a big company. His knowledge seemed to end there because I started asking him about Niacin deficiency and excess protein/calcium, and he didn't have much to say.

To be fair, this was an emergency "fit-in" appointment at a vet I'd never been to (the only one who would get us in on short notice). The office was pretty busy, and he didn't seem like he wanted to spend a lot of time with us. I am searching for a good avian vet in Maine. If anyone has a recommendation, hit me up!
Hmm it sounds more like a blanketing theory he has. I personally think it's a little wreckless as a professional to tout something as a fact without scientific evidence/information to back up said claims. Do some companies have priorities other than optimal nutrition? I'm sure there are a few bad apples as there are in any form of business, but to group all organic feed together sounds a bit personal, especially with the wide range of options available in the "organic" feed category today. I think overall the best thing any of us can do for our waterfowl is to contact the companies we purchase our feed from and request the full vitamin/mineral amounts instead of basing our decision solely off of the very minimal nutritional analysis that feed companies are required to provide. People tend to overlook the fact that there is a lot more that goes into waterfowl nutrition besides protein, fat, fiber, calcium etc. and it's prudent that waterfowl owners know the amounts required for their birds. Keeping ducks alive is one thing, but maintaining a truly thriving flock is what we all should strive for. Also this isn't directed toward you I'm just saying in general lol

Edit: I will add the one thing that I could see being an issue is that several of the "organic" feeds have whole grains, peas, etc. mixed with pellets where the pellets contain all of the vitamin/mineral nutrition. I could see there being health issues in the flocks that tend to pick out the grains and leave the nutritional pellets, but then again there are many "organic" options that are solely pellets or crumbles with no added grains. It certainly is interesting to think about, but I'll stop myself😂
 
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Any tips for getting them to eat the Mazuri food? They put their beaks up at it, so I ended up mixing a little bit of their old food with it. But then they picked out all the old food and left the Mazuri. I think it may be because it's a different size and shape. Did anyone else have issues switching?
I had a lot of difficulty getting mine to switch. It took my ducks about 3 weeks to switch completely. They even refused it in their water. The first time I tried they literally turned their backs on it.

I mixed Mazuri with their original food my ducks picked around the Mazuri and ate only their original food. Daily I composted the Mazuri and gave them fresh food. As they started eating the Mazuri I increased the percentage of the Mazuri. Eventually they were eating Mazuri completely. Then I could put Mazuri in water and they got excited and descended on it ravenously!

My ducks think new food is poison.
 
I had a lot of difficulty getting mine to switch. It took my ducks about 3 weeks to switch completely. They even refused it in their water. The first time I tried they literally turned their backs on it.

I mixed Mazuri with their original food my ducks picked around the Mazuri and ate only their original food. Daily I composted the Mazuri and gave them fresh food. As they started eating the Mazuri I increased the percentage of the Mazuri. Eventually they were eating Mazuri completely. Then I could put Mazuri in water and they got excited and descended on it ravenously!

My ducks think new food is poison.
Mine were the same way for a whole month before I gave in and went back to my old feed. It started getting cold and I was worried about their feed intake affecting their overall health. I might give Mazuri another try when the weather remains steady and warm in case they go on food strike again lol I did notice it was my smaller breeds who seemed to have the biggest aversion to it. Maybe it's the size that throws them off since it is larger than a little pellet?🤔
 
Mine were the same way for a whole month before I gave in and went back to my old feed. It started getting cold and I was worried about their feed intake affecting their overall health. I might give Mazuri another try when the weather remains steady and warm in case they go on food strike again lol I did notice it was my smaller breeds who seemed to have the biggest aversion to it. Maybe it's the size that throws them off since it is larger than a little pellet?🤔
Hmmm... I wonder how long you would need to mix the food for them to them to adjust? Surely eventually they would accept the change? A month is a long time. My theory with my ducks is that while they were eating their original food they accidentally ate a pellet of Mazuri now and then, and slowly realized it wasn't so bad.
 
Hmm it sounds more like a blanketing theory he has. I personally think it's a little wreckless as a professional to tout something as a fact without scientific evidence/information to back up said claims. Do some companies have priorities other than optimal nutrition? I'm sure there are a few bad apples as there are in any form of business, but to group all organic feed together sounds a bit personal, especially with the wide range of options available in the "organic" feed category today. I think overall the best thing any of us can do for our waterfowl is to contact the companies we purchase our feed from and request the full vitamin/mineral amounts instead of basing our decision solely off of the very minimal nutritional analysis that feed companies are required to provide. People tend to overlook the fact that there is a lot more that goes into waterfowl nutrition besides protein, fat, fiber, calcium etc. and it's prudent that waterfowl owners know the amounts required for their birds. Keeping ducks alive is one thing, but maintaining a truly thriving flock is what we all should strive for. Also this isn't directed toward you I'm just saying in general lol

Edit: I will add the one thing that I could see being an issue is that several of the "organic" feeds have whole grains, peas, etc. mixed with pellets where the pellets contain all of the vitamin/mineral nutrition. I could see there being health issues in the flocks that tend to pick out the grains and leave the nutritional pellets, but then again there are many "organic" options that are solely pellets or crumbles with no added grains. It certainly is interesting to think about, but I'll stop myself😂
I 100% agree! A healthy, thriving flock is my goal, eggs are just an added benefit to having ducks! The food I was giving them was a straight pellet. I had read about birds eating scratch & peck blends and picking out their favorites, thus not getting the right nutrients, so I did not want that to happen!
 
Mine were the same way for a whole month before I gave in and went back to my old feed. It started getting cold and I was worried about their feed intake affecting their overall health. I might give Mazuri another try when the weather remains steady and warm in case they go on food strike again lol I did notice it was my smaller breeds who seemed to have the biggest aversion to it. Maybe it's the size that throws them off since it is larger than a little pellet?🤔
That happened to me too. The weather got really cold, and I was concerned about them not eating enough, so I gave in and let them eat their old food. But now that it's warm, I'm going to give them mainly the Mazuri with a lot less of the other stuff.
 

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