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With my first month on only progesterone I noticed changes and it caused me some anxiety. The micronized progesterone has a certain effect for the first hour or few after taking with food as I was advised. It is a gaba type feeling like a valium or other antianxiety med. It can be really nice, strange, or uncomfortable and annoying. I found that I looked forward to med time for that relaxation or dreaded it when I didn't feel like being high like that. Text on my screen can appear to wobble or jump up and down so it was disconcerting on days that it decided to hit hard. Sometimes that is not welcome as I am not comfortable driving so I make sure I do not have to go anywhere within that hour or so. Sometimes it is a complete miss and I feel totally normal for those couple hours. I think it is meal time and type related and try to keep a consistent snack and meal schedule.

For the first month or so it was rough at work because I had apathy and a sort of weakness/fatigue even during the day. I was afraid I would mess up counting and keeping track of numbers and money. Anxious because I found myself apathetic and worrying that I was not quite myself and people would notice.

When the estradiol patch was added that apathy evened out but I found I had less patience with people in general.

I am normal after a year but even last night the progesterone decided to hit hard and affect my solitaire game. Lol It is just about an hour or so and I won't change that because my body is so much better now.

I keep a calendar and make sure to not miss or deviate from pill or patch time because that causes issues like uterine cramps or day time progestone feelings.

Whatever the reason or symptoms you are taking the treatment for will be the deciding factor for you. If it is intolerable then it is. I take no other medications so it is pretty straight forward for me.

Some people have a progestin releasing IUD placed but it is not like you can just stop taking that and will have to have it removed if it causes issues.

If you don't have a uterus, you don't need progestrone at all to keep it safe. It is optional.

Starting slow and lower doses of estradiol doses at first can help but it annoyed me because my uterus and breasts had to get used to it every time. Late patch application or brand changes can do that too and it is aggravating. Consistent and on time, every time, works for me.

It does take time and adjustments to get comfortable and for me it was a bit of a ride mentally and emotionally because I went without certain feelings for so long.
I do not like the nervous/anxiety feeling at all. There were a couple of days I couldn't get it to stop so I ripped off the patch and stopped the pill and ended up finally being able to relax. I'm 100% sure the combination of the two new meds screwed me up and I'm a little bit worried about starting it again, but I've just had a serious neck injury which shows that I have degenerative joint disease in my neck and I don't want it to get worse so I really think the estrogen will help prevent it from getting worse. I'm in a bind on what to do.
 
The WHI study >20 years ago certainly did way more harm than good. They applied their flawed results to all women, all types of hormone formulations, etc. Turns out conjugated equine estrogens and medroxyprogesterone (Premarin and Provera) are not the same as estradiol and progesterone and can increase risk of breast cancer and thromboembolism.

Newer research is showing that natural estradiol and progesterone when given at the onset of menopause may actually have a long term benefit on cardiovascular risk. Recent studies have even shown a lower risk of breast cancer development, but these breast cancer studies are very new and underpowered to make that generalization yet.

The semiweekly estradiol patch reaches peak serum levels after about 2 weeks of use. It comes in 5 doses, but the lowest dose (0.025 mg/24hr) has not been shown to have any bone density benefit. Transdermal estradiol is much safer from a thromboembolism (stroke, DVT/PE, heart attack) than oral due to the bypassing the “first pass” effect. When any of these types of hormones are taken orally, they are absorbed through the GI tract and go to the liver. When the liver metabolizes these estrogens (coming in as 1 larger dose), it increases its output of clotting factors all at once. With the patch, we avoid this first pass effect from the GI tract. A very dilute amount in the blood stream reaches the liver and there is minimal clotting factor output. This is far safer from a blood clot standpoint. Also, the patch provides a nice steady state of hormone in your blood stream vs a larger peak & trough with the oral form. I have noticed that the Dotti generic patch has fewer glue allergies and stays on better than other generics.

For those of us that have a uterus it is important to take progesterone as well. This counteracts the thickening effect of estradiol on the uterine lining to avoid precancers or overt uterine cancer. FYI, If you take the estradiol without progesterone even for a couple weeks and then start the progesterone, you can get some bleeding but it should subside.

Progesterone is sedating and can help with sleep. It is oral and comes in two general doses (100 and 200 mg). Higher estradiol doses will need the higher progesterone dose.

Women have certainly have different menopause symptoms and journeys! Absolutely menopause can lead to generalized joint pain and body aches for some. Brain fog, mood, hot flashes/night sweats, insomnia, vaginal atrophy, decreased skin elasticity, weight gain, and bone loss are all common issues. Some women with a history of menstrual migraines may notice more headaches in the perimenopause and early menopause years.

For bone density, the most beneficial thing we can do is weight bearing exercise and strength training. This will make a much larger difference than the hormones or other pharmaceutical treatments. Even taking regular walks with a weighted vest can make a dramatic difference.

Short term, i.e 2-3 years at a use of pharmaceuticals can provide improvements in bone density even after therapy is stopped. There are many classes of drugs out there with very different side effects and durations of treatment. I certainly do recommend treatment breaks and not taking these continuously forever (there can be deleterious effects if taken long term).

For me, menopause has been a much easier journey than what my mom went through (she was batpoop crazy during my teenage years!) I would have to say, I prefer menopause over going through puberty, but all of our experiences are so different!
 
I do not like the nervous/anxiety feeling at all. There were a couple of days I couldn't get it to stop so I ripped off the patch and stopped the pill and ended up finally being able to relax. I'm 100% sure the combination of the two new meds screwed me up and I'm a little bit worried about starting it again, but I've just had a serious neck injury which shows that I have degenerative joint disease in my neck and I don't want it to get worse so I really think the estrogen will help prevent it from getting worse. I'm in a bind on what to do.
I hope you and your doctor can help adjust you to a dose and schedule that works for you.

Did you get started out on high doses right off the bat? That would definitely be a shock to your system if so.

I got on the highest progesterone 200 and the .05 mg patch a month later. It was a ride but worth it for me to ride all the way up to .10 mg fast because of everything I have going on.

I really hope you are recovering well from the injury. My cervical/thoracic spine area is a mess and can be so damn painful at times all the way into my fingers with the pressed nerves acting up. If I exert myself too much, my trapezius area starts to tingle, then itch and burn or even feel stabbed.

It was sobering to find out that I am frail and hard to come to terms with when I like to be active.
 
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I do not like the nervous/anxiety feeling at all. There were a couple of days I couldn't get it to stop so I ripped off the patch and stopped the pill and ended up finally being able to relax. I'm 100% sure the combination of the two new meds screwed me up and I'm a little bit worried about starting it again, but I've just had a serious neck injury which shows that I have degenerative joint disease in my neck and I don't want it to get worse so I really think the estrogen will help prevent it from getting worse. I'm in a bind on what to do.
So sorry you are dealing with this awful neck issue!

DJD can be age-related too (especially if you had earlier stress/trauma/injury to that area earlier in life). IMO, if your mood is worse on the hormones, don’t take them! Quality of life is important. The joint benefit of HRT is for those with generalized joint pain with no overt structural issue or injury. I don’t think HRT would provide any significant benefit for your neck.

Once you are cleared for PT by your doctor, focusing on strengthening the muscles in your neck and shoulders will be the best for your long term neck health, pain, and mobility.

Many prayers for a quick recovery!
 
So sorry you are dealing with this awful neck issue!

DJD can be age-related too (especially if you had earlier stress/trauma/injury to that area earlier in life). IMO, if your mood is worse on the hormones, don’t take them! Quality of life is important. The joint benefit of HRT is for those with generalized joint pain with no overt structural issue or injury. I don’t think HRT would provide any significant benefit for your neck.

Once you are cleared for PT by your doctor, focusing on strengthening the muscles in your neck and shoulders will be the best for your long term neck health, pain, and mobility.

Many prayers for a quick recovery!
I've got a few different things going on with my neck after an injury 3 weeks ago. I'm finally cleared for an epidural spine injection in between my C5 and C6 and I cannot wait for it on Tuesday.

I agree. As soon as I feel from this I'm going to strengthening the muscles all over my body.

I have three herniated discs in my neck that will not go down.
I've never taken so many pills in my life as I have these last past 3 weeks and I'm so ready to be done taking them.
 
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