Our Dog Was Shot

[duckluck]

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Actually they probably did have the right to shoot to kill. Especially if he was threatning their animals. Most states have a law that gives a livestock owner the right to shoot and kill a dog killing or harrassing livestock. I'm glad the dog is doing better. I have 3 dogs that I love. I also have cattle and a dog in bothering our cattle does not get a second chance if we see him/her harrassing them.

Very true. Our county sheriff told me I have that right, and went and knocked on the door of the neighbor whose dog was over here and told him to lock it up or I'd shoot it and there would be nothing he could do. We didn't have to shoot it because he finally locked it up, but the fact remains that if I see any dog over here bothering my horses or ducks, it will be shot, especially if I don't know the dog. If someone can get to the gun before it's gone, it's SSS. Way too many people around here lose animals to loose dogs, neighbor lost a whole flock of Dorset sheep to a loose Husky before animal control finally shot it. All anyone has to do is look at the section here on predator control and how many members have lost animals to know this.

 

[Iowa Roo Mom]

Why do these threads always have to turn into a fiasco? OP lets her dog out- IN A FENCED YARD- the dog excapes- gets shot- OP posts about it.

But, rather than well wishes, which is what the OP needs right now, some people have to jump on the defensive about whether or not the person who shot the OP's dog had the right to do so or not. Quite frankly, NONE of us knows what happened. Maybe the dog was attacking someone's livestock, maybe it wasn't, maybe it was a mistaken identity, maybe it wasn't, NO ONE KNOWS. The only thing you're going to accomplish by arguing is getting this thread locked....

So, to the OP- I am sorry about your dog, and I do hope for a speedy recovery...

 

[ajablu]

I am really sorry that your dog suffered such a terrible injury but glad he is doing better.
I know how it must have hurt you to see him injured like that. I am a dog lover and have been my whole life. I have raised dogs and done some showing for the past 31 years, so no one loves and respects dogs more than I do. But sometimes you have to consider the other persons feelings. They may have been really afraid and felt in danger. Huskies are a very predatory breed and and I have known many that will kill other dogs, cats and livestock. They could have been protecting themselves or a pet. It is hard to know exactly what dogs do when they are not within our sight. I am terrified of German Shepherd Dogs. I was attacked and mauled by our familys German Shepherd when I was 11 years old. My mother told me to make him go outside and he didn't want to. She said take his collar and lead him out and that was when he suddenly attacked me. Now even though I think they are gorgeous I can't help but be afraid of them. I still have scars from that. My daughter was attacked by a neighbors husky that often roamed around and was triggered to attack by the kids playing , running and screaming in the yard so even though you know and love the dog it could have terrified someone else. My daughter was lucky another neighbor beat the dog off her and saved her life as I was unable to hear the kids in their friends yard where they were playing. It could have even been the act of a cruel person who just wanted to shoot the dog without any reason. In my area it is a known thing that if your dog escapes it will likely be shot. We do everything we can to make sure it doesn't happen, but in reality accidents do happen. My husband slipped and fell on ice while out walking and the dog escaped. It is a hunting dog and even though it is whoa trained it decided to take a long run and ignored the command, so back to training again. One thing we did was walk our dogs around to meet all the neighbors and give them our phone number in case of an accidental escape. We asked them to please call us if it ever happened and the dog was on their property. We do not shoot a dog on our property unless we felt we were in danger or our pets were and even then we would try to frighten it off if possible but we would protect ourselves if an attack was unavoidable. We know how much we love our dogs and they are family to us. We would not want to hurt anyone elses beloved friend. Maybe you could introduce your dog to your neighbors and give them your number in case of an accidental escape. But because your dog was shot once I would work very hard to make a safe place to put your dog out where he can not get out.
I am not trying to be mean. I would be totally devastated and heartbroken if one of my much loved dogs were shot. I am really so happy he is getting better and sorry for your pain too.
I hope you can set something up that would give him a safe place to be outside so it never happens again.

 

[Prettiest Frog]

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The above quote is the problem.

The first dog I ever killed was a 'sweet, well-mannered baby who was only loose for a minute' according to the owner. That sweet, well-mannered baby who was only loose for a minute tore my six year old sister's kitten out of her hands, causing my sister incredible trauma and a need for stitches. The owner of that dog was 'devastated' that I killed her baby and to this day no doubt believes I am a horrible person who should be locked up as a menace to society.

Since that time I've unfortunately had to kill several other dogs that thought my pets were toys or food. The owners have always tried to guilt trip me.

But the truth of the matter is, if they'd have kept their dogs in their yards, their dogs would still be alive. If it was the first time the dog had managed to get loose, I would by sympathetic. Most of the time, it wasn't.

 

[chinbunny]

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Its not criticism when many of us have lost animals to free roaming, unsupervised dogs.

Yes I hope it recovers too. I hate to see any animal go through that, but hopefully there will be a lesson learned from it.

it is criticism when people keep telling her how to raise her dog which i am sure she knows how to do already. stuff happends and you can not contain a dog at all times. they need to run around and exercise like every other animal. i read her post before when she said her dog was a sweet heart. people don't realize that not all dogs are mean. while animals are unpredictable, she said the dog might have gone into the woods. she never mentioned poultry and everyone just threw it in there. i feel bad that she has talked about her poor doggie getting shot and everyone wants to tell her how to raise her own dog. she doesn't seem like an idiot to me.

Nobody was saying she is an idiot. Its just that we want to see the dog contained so that it isn't getting shot again, or getting into trouble. And yeah stuff does happen. it was an accident and yeah I do feel bad for her and the dog. As I stated before the thing is we have all had bad experiences with dogs whose owners thought they were not destructive, and wouldn't hurt anything. My neighbor lady is one of them. She was surprised when her dogs got in my barn and killed a rabbit. She didn't know that dogs could kill a rabbit, and then tried to make it out like it was my fault her animals killed mine because I have rabbits in town.

I do agree with her that you can contact animal control to pick up a stray dog. I have done that many times. However, there have been times when a dog was vicious and could not be approached. that had to be dealt with by the police. Thankfully they have only had to kill one. Another was a pit bull they had to come down and get with a catch pole. The first time dogs got into my rabbits, they were extremely vicious. I was at work. My sister saw them killing them and went out to chase them off with pitchfork and shovel in each hand. they turned on her and attacked her, and chased her to the house. It took the cops four hours to hunt down those dogs. they ended up going home, where the police found them. the owners were fined and made to pay all the vet bills, and replace all the rabbits that were killed. They were also fined for having dogs at large. Owners up getting rid of them later on because they got too mean for them to handle.

I would rather see animal control and the police deal with the dog and its owner, then see it shot. However, with farmers, they have no way of knowing how that dog is going to react when its going after their livestock. Where I live you have a right to shoot a dog if your animals are in danger.

 

[chinbunny]

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The above quote is the problem.

The first dog I ever killed was a 'sweet, well-mannered baby who was only loose for a minute' according to the owner. That sweet, well-mannered baby who was only loose for a minute tore my six year old sister's kitten out of her hands, causing my sister incredible trauma and a need for stitches. The owner of that dog was 'devastated' that I killed her baby and to this day no doubt believes I am a horrible person who should be locked up as a menace to society.

Since that time I've unfortunately had to kill several other dogs that thought my pets were toys or food. The owners have always tried to guilt trip me.

But the truth of the matter is, if they'd have kept their dogs in their yards, their dogs would still be alive. If it was the first time the dog had managed to get loose, I would by sympathetic. Most of the time, it wasn't.

We have a local case going on with a guy that allowed his pit bulls to stay out in a fenced yard all day while he was at work. Somebody let the dogs out(or maybe they let themselves out) and they attacked a beautiful aussie shepherd and their own. They nearly killed her dog. the owner has to go to court. News station showed videos of his dogs. You would never know what they did to the other just by the way they acted around the camera crew and owner. Looked like sweet, friendly animals.

 

[Catstar68]

I just quickly skimmed through the replies but after reading the OP it left me wondering...what are the local laws? I know many stand on the "if it's threatening/killing/harassing my livestock' soapbox but it sounds like the OP doesn't live on or around acres of farms. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I live in a rural area but with houses close by and a rural subdivision here and there. We are outside the city limits but there are still laws against discharging a firearm within a certain distance from an occupied dwelling. If the bullet went through the dog then it was either a fairly high powered rifle or he was shot at close range. It would worry me a bit since it sounds like someone was a bit trigger happy but, then again, I wasn't there and don't know the whole situation.
I've known a husky that was the sweetest creature until it saw a kitten...

So we never really know our dogs...especially ones with a high prey-drive like a husky.
I'm glad your dog is recovering and you are taking the steps to protect him.

 

[chinbunny]

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I do not think I "Blew it". And I still believe that people should call animal control or come to the owner before taking it upon themselves to shoot an animal. And he does not look intimidating, he is just a dog! And it does matter where he was IF he wasn't in someone's yard, if it was in the woods right behind our house, then they have no right to shoot!
I took my lumps as you call it when he came back into the house bleeding and I had to rush him to the vet! I didn't post this story for you or others to berate me on how it was my fault. I was upset and worried about my dog so I posted the story.

While they are trying to find the owner or waiting for Animal Control to respond, if and when they ever do, the dog in question may be causing havoc. At this time of year many people have goats, cattle and sheep ready to give birth at any time. The stress of having a dog running them will cause them to miscarry. I love dogs as much as the next person, but if someone lets their dog run loose to cause havoc amongst my animals then I am going to put a stop to it. If I give it a second chance I am giving it a second chance at killing my animals. I can't afford to lose animals due to someone else's negligence. As far as I am concerned if they were that concerned about their dog they would know where it was at all times. If I wanted another dog around I would buy one and train it, I don't want someone else's carrying on however it feels fit around my livestock.

Most times when something like that happens, you never ever find the owner. last severe dog attack that happened four years ago is a good example of that. Image walking into my barn finding all my best show rabbits laying dead on the floor, and the whole place ransacked. three to four inches of poop mixed with bedding everywhere. Cages torn down and ripped apart everywhere. Some of the rabbits were pulled through the cages. Body parts everywhere. The dogs came back three times until the police were able to catch and kill the pack leader. the rest were picked up, or went their own way. No owners were ever found.

I don't think anyone here is trying to feel bad, and we do feel sympathy for your dog. And we do want him to get better. But you have to try to understand what we are also trying to tell you here. There may be a reason why he was shot like that. Or there may not. When a stray dog breaks into my barn and kills my prized animals, I tend to feel less sympathy for the animal and owner. But that's not saying your dog did that though.

 

[chinbunny]

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Well, not only firearms. But most states also have laws for confining dogs too. here the dog must be on a 6 foot chain at all times. Doesn't matter if its in a fenced yard, or a kennel. Out with supervision is the only exception to the rule. sadly most here do not follow the law when it comes to owning dogs, and just let them do whatever they want.

 

[DuckLady]

Now that we have thoroughly kicked the OP when they were down, we are done here.