Overnight feed soaking for weight gain

who does not give their birds free choice water? well duh if its frozen they cant drink it
i do free choice food!
A surprising number of people end up with thirsty chickens, for a variety of reasons:
--they don't provide enough water (especially in hot weather)
--they don't check or refill the water often enough
--the water leaks or gets knocked over
--the water freezes while the person is away at work or school
--the person gives fresh water in the morning, but it re-freezes without them realizing it
and probably quite a few other reasons as well

You hadn't said anything about water, so I mentioned it because it does affect how much food the chickens will eat. And because other people read the threads too, it serves as a reminder to anyone else who might have forgotten how important water is.

well this a given
Many things are obvious to some people but not to others. I didn't know which ones are obvious to you. Most people who talk about trying to make layers "gain weight" are misguided (because they think a layer should be round like a meat chicken, or because they think she should weigh the "right" number of pounds for her breed even if she is actually a smaller bird, or because they think a layer should be extra-fat for the winter.)

You might be right about your birds needing to gain weight, but what I saw in this thread wasn't detailed enough for me to be sure of that. And if your birds always have free-choice feed and water, and they are still too skinny, that is definitely not normal. So I would suggest checking for problems (maybe internal parasites? Or some birds bullying others so they cannot eat or drink freely?)
 
A surprising number of people end up with thirsty chickens, for a variety of reasons:
--they don't provide enough water (especially in hot weather)
--they don't check or refill the water often enough
--the water leaks or gets knocked over
--the water freezes while the person is away at work or school
--the person gives fresh water in the morning, but it re-freezes without them realizing it
and probably quite a few other reasons as well

You hadn't said anything about water, so I mentioned it because it does affect how much food the chickens will eat. And because other people read the threads too, it serves as a reminder to anyone else who might have forgotten how important water is.


Many things are obvious to some people but not to others. I didn't know which ones are obvious to you. Most people who talk about trying to make layers "gain weight" are misguided (because they think a layer should be round like a meat chicken, or because they think she should weigh the "right" number of pounds for her breed even if she is actually a smaller bird, or because they think a layer should be extra-fat for the winter.)

You might be right about your birds needing to gain weight, but what I saw in this thread wasn't detailed enough for me to be sure of that. And if your birds always have free-choice feed and water, and they are still too skinny, that is definitely not normal. So I would suggest checking for problems (maybe internal parasites? Or some birds bullying others so they cannot eat or drink freely?)
okay thanks

also, what's the difference between fermenting feed and soaking feed?
well, the difference in the benefits
 
okay thanks

also, what's the difference between fermenting feed and soaking feed?
well, the difference in the benefits
fermented feed produces a more acidic feed due to lactobacilli that aid in digestive health. Think of it as a probiotic. Also less wasted feed, better hydration. It is simply feed submerged in enough water to cover the feed by a couple of inches (there is a ratio to use) and allowed to ferment, about 48-72 hrs.

Soaked feed (some call it mash) is wet feed that has not yet fermented. Benefit is it provides extra water when/if needed, less wasted feed. Chickens like it.

This is what I do for my flock of 10:
feed is 17% All flock dry pellets free choice with oyster shell on side for the layers.
Upon opening a new bag I screen the feed to remove the powdery fines and use that for mash and fermenting which is given in the evenings. I make about 1.5 cups end product for 10 adult large breed birds.


There are many articles and threads on the subject. Search ‘fermented feed’. It takes time to prepare but, IMO, it’s worth it. My birds have not had GI issues, and I think it’s because they extract nutrients better than strict dry feed can offer.
 
fermented feed produces a more acidic feed due to lactobacilli that aid in digestive health. Think of it as a probiotic. Also less wasted feed, better hydration. It is simply feed submerged in enough water to cover the feed by a couple of inches (there is a ratio to use) and allowed to ferment, about 48-72 hrs.

Soaked feed (some call it mash) is wet feed that has not yet fermented. Benefit is it provides extra water when/if needed, less wasted feed. Chickens like it.

This is what I do for my flock of 10:
feed is 17% All flock dry pellets free choice with oyster shell on side for the layers.
Upon opening a new bag I screen the feed to remove the powdery fines and use that for mash and fermenting which is given in the evenings. I make about 1.5 cups end product for 10 adult large breed birds.


There are many articles and threads on the subject. Search ‘fermented feed’. It takes time to prepare but, IMO, it’s worth it. My birds have not had GI issues, and I think it’s because they extract nutrients better than strict dry feed can offer.
Thanks
 
With it being that some are a little under weight and giving just good eats over the winter, I would switch them to a 20% starter/all flock with oyster shell on the side. The flock is likely not going to need all the calcium in layer over the winter but you could still use the layer on hand as your mash feed.
 
okay thanks

also, what's the difference between fermenting feed and soaking feed?
well, the difference in the benefits
You can ferment feed a bit simply by soaking overnight. Save a little bit from each batch to feed your next batch, like sourdough starter. Cooler temps will require a longer ferment time, warmer temps a shorter one, but you’ll see and/or smell the difference. Just be sure you keep regular feed available at all times.
 
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