Owning a bird dog and chicks...

Discussion in 'Raising Baby Chicks' started by PacsMan, Mar 18, 2009.

  1. PacsMan

    PacsMan Chillin' With My Peeps

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    We have a 2 1/2 year old Brittany Spaniel. He’s a pretty good dog, but a little hyper. (Like most Britts) We’ve never had him hunting, but his breed are excellent hunters. I’ve seen many a dog on point while hunting with my dad years ago.

    We’re new to chickens this year. Ours are 7 weeks old, and almost ready to go outside for good. We’ve had them outside in our chicken tractor for a couple of hours on warm days, and they love it.

    “Buddy” loves it too. He’ll sit and ‘point’ at them for several minutes at a time. He’ll stare and watch their every move. (I can just hear my dad saying, “go flush ‘em out!”). A couple of times he’s been so still that the chicks run up to him and ‘ask’ for treats. We’re always out there when Buddy is there, but he’s jumped at the tractor twice. (At which time he’s been scolded.)

    I don’t want to dissuade him from his natural instinct of watching/pointing at the chickens, but I neither do I want dead or harassed chickens.

    Question; as the chicks get older, will the dog get used to them and leave them alone, or am I going to always have to keep a VERY close eye on him every time we let him out?

    I plan on letting the chickens out of their tractor for a couple of hours each day, and in a perfect world, Buddy would be able to come out and not bother them

    Am I dreaming? [​IMG]

    Anyone had experience with Brittany Spaniels and Chickens?

    Marty
     
  2. tellynpeep

    tellynpeep Chillin' With My Peeps

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    A friend has a brittany who has killed numerous chickens. He is also bird-obsessed (will try to catch a robin if he sees one.) However, my last bird dog, a retriever, was great with the chickens. He seemed to take a paternal attitude towards them. (He also competed with them for left-over scraps when I tossed them in the yard.) He would never hurt a bird. In general, I wouldn't trust the Brit. Individual dogs vary, but a "hyper" bird dog will probably bite first, ask questions later. You MAY be able to trust him, but I would be very very sure of that before you let him loose with the chicks.
     
  3. Fancie

    Fancie Chillin' With My Peeps

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    my dog is a mutt... but he was very bird obsessed. My husbands a hunter and when he would bring a bird home my dog would get hyper, snap at it, his teeth would chatter, he would whine... the whole nine yards. I never thought I would ever be able to trust him around my chickens... and at first we were right. He killed 5 - 6 of my first chicks, the spacing on the cage was too big and they just slipped right threw.

    One day my birds got out somehow (my cage wasn't very secure at the time) and he left it alone. I was amazed.

    He still can't be trusted with chicks, but he dosen't mess with the adults.

    But every dog is diffrant. I would muzzle him or something and watch him before I trust him completly
     
  4. Eric in NC

    Eric in NC Out Of The Brooder

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    Don't have Brittanys but my Setters and Pointers can't be trusted. They don't want to "kill" the birds, just to pick them up and bring them to me (like good boys!) which would kill the birds anyway.

    An invisible fence for the dogs and a fenced run for the chickens is the only way it can work for my situation.
     
  5. Silkiefan

    Silkiefan Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I'm pretty sure that any dog of any breed will be tempted to eat a fluffy snack if not supervised. Just last night, my Border Collie leaned into the dog kennel / chick house and took a snap at one of my silkies, and I instinctively BAPPED her on the shoulder. She's a sensitive dog, and I'm never mean to her, so me being mad at her like this really upset her. Now she's nervous to come into my spare room to watch the chicks with me. I don't even allow the Labrador in because she loves to hunt moles... I don't think you should let your Brittany run with the chickens unsupervised.
    Maybe raising a dog as a puppy with chickens would de-sensitize it to it's natural instincts to hunt... but I think all dogs will go back to their wolf heritage when there's a tasty little niblet peeping at them! -- Hey wait, Ceasar Millan did an episode of Dog Whisperer with a Yellow Lab that kept killing the family chickens... check it out on youtube.com - I will too...
     
  6. peacockgurl

    peacockgurl Out Of The Brooder

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    I dot have Brits but I have a terrier and a border collie/aussie shepherd mix. Both dogs were originally very interested in the chickens and peacocks when we first got them. After a couple barks, chases, and one close call with one of the chickens and the border collie (found the dog with a feather sticking out of her mouth and a very peeved chicken), the dogs finally got disinterested and the chickens are now able to run around free.
     
  7. BarkerChickens

    BarkerChickens Microbrewing Chickenologist

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    Our dogs (you can see the breed mixes in our description at the bottom of the post) do well with our chickens. HOWEVER, it took training! We had to use a shock collar on Casey, the aussie mix. She is a bird obsessed dog and actually "protects" our chickens because she goes after birds that are not a part of her pack (stray birds that fly overhead). She is very good with our chickens (our chickens free-range with the dogs and cat when we are home). They got her on the nose a few times to teach her though too. Our cattle dog mix needed some work too (but too sensitive for a shock collar). Our Brittany/BC mix is scared of the chickens for some reason, so I can't help with that part. If you have the patience and are firm about training, it is definitely doable.

    Also, break your dogs intensity of staring at the chicks. That will feed his instinct and make training more difficult. At least that is what we were told when we had to work with Casey.
     
  8. PortageGirl

    PortageGirl Chillin' With My Peeps

    I had a Cocker Spaniel years ago who was very trustworthy with both chicks and older birds. He seemed to know they were part of our (his?) property, and so needed looking after. Once when we had day olds that got old enough to get out of their brooder, he'd pick them up gently and put them back IN. (till too many started doing it and he just gave up and laid down with a big sad sigh and watched em run amok.) He never harmed a ONE doing it either, which it probably should have just stressed them and/or damaged them at least!!!

    He was probably an exception though, I guess it's all environment though, cause we had the Cocker, a German Shepherd, and two Border Collie/Australian Shepherd mixes who were fine (though one BC/Aussie would probably have been a danger without the older one to teach him right).

    A leash, consistant reinforcement, and care, I think it'll be fine.
     
  9. KatyTheChickenLady

    KatyTheChickenLady Bird of A Different Feather

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    We have a beautiful brit who is extremely well trained, and I have trained many over the years. If you can train the instinct out of yours you will have done some thing no one else has ever done. They are the most wonderful dogs but they are dual purpose (point and retrieve)and the insticnt is in them so strong, keep your chickies penned up.
     
  10. lostsoulhelpmejebus

    lostsoulhelpmejebus Incubating Fool

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    I have a Brittany/Springer boy and he "bird dogs" the chickens...will run around their fence, drives the chickens crazy! He has not had the opportunity to get into the pen or get close to the chickens but he cannot be trusted. He catches birds and any other small animals like opossum, fox, etc. Love him but he is a bird dog, through and through.
     

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