peacock as a indoor pet

[BYC-user-174785]

That is a nice place! The quail will not stay, and can easily fit through the openings in chain link fences. Who big is the area for ringneck pheasants? They do get aggressive so do not keep too many. Red goldens are not really aggressive.

 

[muus]

That is a nice place! The quail will not stay, and can easily fit through the openings in chain link fences. Who big is the area for ringneck pheasants? They do get aggressive so do not keep too many. Red goldens are not really aggressive.

Quail will stay at home for now, If I put a new fence I'll put them here.
I know it's a small area for pheasants. My father sayed me that he can put a small hole mesh in the door of the small shed.
I want to have the ringneck pheasant because inspires me, I don't know why...

My babies with me:

Thanks

 

[muus]

By the way, I should also have said:
The place you live looks really beautiful!
Where in Spain are you?

I'm from the Baix Ebre in Catalunya. I live near the Ebro river and I have the mountains and a lot of fields near my home. I live in a good place.

 

[new 2 pfowl]

It looks really wonderful.

I've been to Portugal (which is also beautiful), but never to Spain. You must have lovely weather there, is that still on the Mediterranean Sea?
(sorry to go off of the topic)

 

[muus]

Yes, the Ebro flows in the Mediterranean. You can search for "parc natural del delta del Ebre" or "parc natural dels ports" are the two natural parks we have here and are very near where I live. I'm in the middle.
It's a very beautiful place and i love it. I'm from morroco and I never note my native town.

 

[muus]

Hi
I have my peafowl eggs, I'm very excited and happy to have them in the incubator. I feel sorry because the female was incubating the eggs, but I can't see it when she started laying because a turkey was incubating her eggs in the same place the peahen was laying, the embryos are developing, I think they have more or less than a week, two are more developed than the others, later I'll se them better, and I'll put some photos. The mother is a black shouldered and the father is white. What type of peafowls can arise from this parents?
Thanks

 

[Kedreeva]

Well this whole thread has become a train wreck. I'm going to say, again, that this is most likely (barring miracles) not going to go the way you are currently dreaming. As someone said earlier, you have a very beautiful place to free range birds. But if you're looking to imprint all these birds (even excluding the quail and pheasants that probably would not imprint even if you tried), it's not going to work for the peas. You're not going to be able to successfully imprint (to the degree you want) more than 1 pea at a time.

I'm not trying to be mean, but as the person here who has done this over and over, I am telling you that group-housing peas will result in them NOT imprinting to you (they will not dual-imprint, I have no idea where you got that idea for peafowl), especially as you will be dividing your time between them and the other birds that are about to be under your care. The peas may be somewhat more human friendly than if you just left them alone, but they aren't going to follow you around- not even Gizmo does that outside. You aren't going to be "mom". This may not be true for other birds (my chickens all follow me around, and I never imprinted ANY of them, they just do it) but it IS true of peafowl (again, barring miracles or one-off oddities).

You had mentioned housing ducks and peas together. Someone objected to that, someone else said they do that just fine. I'll add my 2 cents in on that; I have 3 muscovies in with my birds, and it's never been a problem. However, the muscovies don't "play" in the water as much as regular ducks do, and I dump/clean/refill the water bucket daily. Non-muscovy ducks love to play in the water- the waterer you left a picture of will be emptied daily by them. They will play in it until there is no water left to play in, and there is no water left for the other birds to drink. When I moved, we left all the non-muscovy ducks with a friend who had a pond, because they were so incredibly messy in a pen. You won't just be changing water daily; you will need to muck out wet bedding almost daily, too, or it starts rotting. We currently water the pen with the ducks with a homemade bucket like this (this one has food in it, but we use them for water, too):



The lid screws on so it can't be knocked off, and the birds have to put their head in to drink, which means they can't poop in it. If you want to house them together, that may be a good way to go.

You mentioned (and quite disturbed me, actually) that you will indoor-house/cage-house all the birds for at least 1 month because then they will be able to "defend" themselves. There's no "defend" themselves, that is why we put birds in pens and trap/kill predators and it's why people have tragic, tragic stories about the time X-predator got into the pen and killed so-and-so their favorite bird. These are prey animals you are raising, and maybe not everything has the ability to kill them, but that doesn't mean nothing can once they pass a certain age. I JUST read an article less than a month ago about an adult peahen who was killed by a CAT, like just a house cat. Please do not make the mistake of thinking that because your birds get to full-grown that they will be able to defend themselves; you will need to take an active role in keeping them safe once you have them.

You asked what you would get out of the parents that you listed. You'll get blue birds split white and black shouldered if the parents were a blackshoulder and a white. If the white is carrying blackshoulder (which wouldn't show on the hen), you would get blackshoulder split white.

I would strongly encourage you to start asking questions about how best to safely and successfully free-range birds, rather than imprinting, because that's looking like how this is going to end up for you.

 

[muus]

Hi
I don't if you can't have your peafowls free range, but here in spain in all my life I've never seen a caged peafowl, There are cats, dogs, foxes and rats, and the hens can protect their chicks, also the mallards can defend her babies and grow all without problems and they are free range. That is not a problem I think, when they will be inside the pens, any predator can enter to kill them. All entries are closed.
In the monastery there are a lot of cats, when they see me know that I'm her enemy. When I had my 3 goslings, I defend him with a lot of courage, and when the cats see me starts runing, they don't want to stay close to me. Only they approach to me when other person they know, it's by me. Other think I need to say it's that I never told that I closed with grating the doors and anything can enter.





Other thing I nid to say is that could be the birds will be penned younger If I see a good growth.

About the water container I told that It will be imposible to mess, only it will have food because the ducks, and geese when They eat, they go to drink water to be easier to swallow the food. And I don't know If I say it, but the gallinaceous will be in the big pen, and the waterfowl in the other. That is because I don't want to let free range the partridges and pheasants, they can go away and be lost. That means that peas, partridges and pheasants will be in a pen, and ducks and geese in the other.
You said that peas can kill the other birds, when 'll see something that make me worry, I'll do something. cats and dogs don't do well but there are exceptions, this birds are going to grow at the same time, but I know that If I see the minimum attack, they will be separated.

Yesterday I candled the eggs and there was only one embryo of more than a week. In the other egg was nothing. I want tho think that the egg that have an embryo was incubated by the turkey, and the other started to be incubated by the peahen, but is a bit imposible. If I have only this chick I'll be happy, and I am going to have more peafowl eggs, this will be blue.


Why do you think that pheasants couldn't be imprinted? Here in spain there are people that haves a partridge that follow her"mother" all the time and the partridges are completly growth. I know that a pheasant is diferent, more surly, but why not try?

You said that I'm not going to have time to have all the birds, They will hatch when I have only 1 week of class, I think I'll have time for all the birds. Dual imprint it's what a person here ins pain made to some parrtos, agapornis, burrowing parros, alexandrine parakeet and cockatiels. He imprint that birds in groups and they say: This birds are imprinted on me and imprinted on her specie, that makes me other of the group when they grow. That is true and I want to make this with fowl. You can think that I'm crazy, but this is progess, If whe don't do anything we will stay forever at the same place. Here is a video to see what he make with him. Go to her chanel and you will se the other birds.

The conclusion of all this is: I want to have a birds that when they are chicks, they follow me and have me like her mother, when they grow, I'm only one more of the group. I never said that I want the peafowls follow me forever, I said that they could have a schedule to go free range or will be free range all the day, that i need to think more in it.
Thanks

 

[Kedreeva]

I'm on my phone so I'll be brief. I said that pheasants and quail probably could not be imprinted. They are incredibly wild.

Parrots and peafowl are both birds but that is where the similarity ends. People have done amazing things with parrots and teaching them things and bonding with them. Peafowl are not the same at all in that respect. What you are comparing is like saying you want to raise a cat to act like how a monkey was raised- they are both mammals but they are nothing alike. It's cool what that person did with parrots but you cannot reasonably expect to do the same with peafowl.

As I have wanted from the beginning of this thread, I still just want you to be realistic in your plans and expectations of what is going to happen with the birds you are planning on caring for, both for your sake and theirs.

 

[muus]

It's true that they are very wild birds but I will try to do it, with my button quails I don't pass a lot of time with him, but they don't scare of me, when they see me they come, and they are not imrpinted animals. I'll try and tell what happens, the animal kingdom can make us surprise.
I know that are not the same, I said that gived me the idea to do this project with fowl, because are more easy to find and not very expensive. With parrots I'll need to pay a lot of money.
I am young and I need to have mistakes to learn, the project could not be what I expect, but I trust in myself and I need to be positive. What could happen if I listen to some things you told me could happen? It will happen that I never do this project. I know you want to help me and say what happened to you and I am very grateful. This project will be recorded and I'll make some documentaries taht I will upload to youtube. When I had my 3 goslings, always said that I'll tell everything. My goslings a lot of times don't want to follow me and prefer stay eating, but when they don´t see me, they start to tweet a lot and very loud. I will show everything in the videos, the bad things and the good things. Because when I see the documentaries making of, always they show a very nice bird, or a very good pet and they people like you that say the true(I don't say that in the documentaries lie) and you are like the bad people that say negative things and you only pretend to help.
Thanks