Okay so I started to get carried away and was about to buy some greens before building a pen for them. What can I say, I got too excited and I am definitely addicted at this point. I need everyone's help to get into pen building mode. Specifically, I need a very strong, long lasting pen. After going to Rocking BAB Ranch and taking photos, my dad and I are thinking about trying this idea: I am not sure if we will do the wrap around perch, but we are going for a small telephone pole with a big satellite dish on top. We also want to get some coated wire to help hold up the netting. Does anyone know where to get coated netting for cheep? ------------- A major question I have is about netting. One of my favorite questions to ask everyone is what netting you use because this is very important to me and now it is even more important since I plan on getting green peafowl. I know some will say wire is better to use as a top because it will last longer, but netting is safer for when the birds spook and that will be very important with green peafowl because they spook more easily. The netting I have is not good for rubbing. I understand that any kind of netting might start to rub and thus break a little. My netting doesn't break when a bird hits it, but it just breaks around some areas that are attached to the fence and areas around the roosts. So please give me your advice for what netting I need. Keep in mind that I am in Florida so I need UV resistant netting and it can get very windy here if there is a hurricane so something that does well in the wind. Here is the list I have compiled so far of recommended types of netting. If there is one that you use and love from the list or not on the list, tell me what it is and how long you have had it. Josh told me their netting is around 10 years old and is holding up great. Josh couldn't remember the name of the netting they use, but he said it is some kind of synthetic plastic netting so if you know where I can get that please let me know! Netting: Toprite Knotted netting Pacific Netting ------------ The new aviary or aviaries will be at least 15ft. I like keeping them tall. Now the old aviary netting is so frustrating that I will probably have to replace it. Anyone know how to replace netting when your pen already has lots of plants growing through the netting? I guess I might have to prune some of the plants to replace the netting. This is my current aviary. I had to put up those plant pots on the roosts to help the net rubbing issue. ---------- Okay so now for predator talk. My problem here is raccoons. I thought they were done with me. I thought those two killer coons were run over by cars. They probably were but then came along a new one this year. We got him, but I am sure there will be more. So far it seems like you all have some of the best luck when you have 1 or more outside dogs to help watch over your birds. My Grandma's is not all fenced in and it is my Grandmas not our house so keeping a dog there is not yet an option (eventually I might live there but not now). Soo I should stick to hot wires probably right? Will raccoons learn to jump over hot wires?