- Apr 12, 2009
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Hi everyone! I'm kinda new on here. Actually I've been loitering and trolling the website for years but have never gotten to the point that I couldn't find the answers I needed. I've hit that spot now.
A little history, I had backyard chickens for a few year then had to re-home them to a neighbor when we moved. We're settled now. I've set up a great new coop and run for the girls. It has about 16 sq. ft of coop space and about 40 sq ft of covered run.
Instead of purchasing from the local feed store, I wanted to try my hand at hatching eggs. I ordered a few (4 Orpington and 4 Americauna)...only 3 of the 8 started any development...but all three hatched into very healthy chicks. This was in November. I ended up with one splash Orpington pullet, a black Orpington cockerel, and an Americauna pullet. We've raised them since day one. The splash pullet (Pippy) was the first born and has always seemed to be the top of the pecking order...not sure if it was because she was older/stronger as the other 2 were born or just the natural progression of things. We aren't allowed roosters in city limits. I took our sweet boy to the local feed store when he started to crow...I'm sure he went to a good home (wink)...I couldn't bring myself to make him into dinner myself.
On to the current problem. Two chickens aren't quite enough so I purchased 2 new pullets to add to my 2 existing ones. They were 12 weeks vs mine at 14. I didn't want to just introduce one so as to make the integration easier. We got a Blue Laced Red Wyandotte (Pumpkin) and a California White Leghorn (Penny). The California white is the smallest of the the girls and I was most worried about her being accepted.
Well, it was Pumpkin who got beat up. Badly. Her poor neck was pecked clean down to muscle. I thought for sure she was a goner. We brought her in and babied her while she healed. Amazingly, she is almost 100%! Except for a very small spot, almost all of her feathers have even grown back. The other 3 got along absolutely fine without her. The bully (my Orpington) made her position known but didn't touch the other new girl. And the Americauna seems oblivious to it all.
Fast forward. Pumpkin was ready to be reintroduced. We put the dog crate by the run for a few day so she could see the others. Once all of her scabs were gone, we swapped positions. I put the bully in the crate and let the injured chicken out with the other 2. The 3 got along great. After about a week of the new integration, I've allowed the Orpington to free range in the backyard with the other 3. She ruffles her feathers on occasion and is still definitely top chicken but no pecking is happening.
So, they've been free ranging every afternoon together and then are locked up in different places in the evening (Pippy the bully in the dog crate and the rest in the run/coop). Yesterday afternoon it started to rain. Pippy was the only one smart enough to get herself into the run. I went out and corralled the other 3 in. All 4 were in the run. I went out every 15 minutes to check on them and at first it all seemed ok. The 'three' were eating while Pippy was on the roost or foraging in the litter. After about an hour though, I went out and Pippy had Pumpkin cornered and was pecking her. Not badly. No feathers. No blood. Yet. But enough to know she's still picking on her. Maybe I should have just let it go as long as there was no blood? I put Pippy back in the dog crate immediately.
SOOOOO, now I thank all of you who have actually read this far....should I separate Pippy completely so she has no interaction with the others for a while? Might that lower her status? The other 3 are definitely a nice little group. But I think they have memory...Pumpkin definitely seems to remember it's Pumpkin she should be afraid of. Should I set up a second smaller coop & run for the prima donna? They do seem to do OK when they are all out together...just not once they are contained in the run. Re-homing her is the very last option. We only have chickens for eggs and pets. We don't show or breed. But they have a special place in our hearts. But she's such a bully!!!! Do you think eventually they will just know the pecking order and Pippy won't feel the need to remind Pumpkin who's boss? Any advise is much appreciated!!!!
A little history, I had backyard chickens for a few year then had to re-home them to a neighbor when we moved. We're settled now. I've set up a great new coop and run for the girls. It has about 16 sq. ft of coop space and about 40 sq ft of covered run.
Instead of purchasing from the local feed store, I wanted to try my hand at hatching eggs. I ordered a few (4 Orpington and 4 Americauna)...only 3 of the 8 started any development...but all three hatched into very healthy chicks. This was in November. I ended up with one splash Orpington pullet, a black Orpington cockerel, and an Americauna pullet. We've raised them since day one. The splash pullet (Pippy) was the first born and has always seemed to be the top of the pecking order...not sure if it was because she was older/stronger as the other 2 were born or just the natural progression of things. We aren't allowed roosters in city limits. I took our sweet boy to the local feed store when he started to crow...I'm sure he went to a good home (wink)...I couldn't bring myself to make him into dinner myself.
On to the current problem. Two chickens aren't quite enough so I purchased 2 new pullets to add to my 2 existing ones. They were 12 weeks vs mine at 14. I didn't want to just introduce one so as to make the integration easier. We got a Blue Laced Red Wyandotte (Pumpkin) and a California White Leghorn (Penny). The California white is the smallest of the the girls and I was most worried about her being accepted.
Well, it was Pumpkin who got beat up. Badly. Her poor neck was pecked clean down to muscle. I thought for sure she was a goner. We brought her in and babied her while she healed. Amazingly, she is almost 100%! Except for a very small spot, almost all of her feathers have even grown back. The other 3 got along absolutely fine without her. The bully (my Orpington) made her position known but didn't touch the other new girl. And the Americauna seems oblivious to it all.
Fast forward. Pumpkin was ready to be reintroduced. We put the dog crate by the run for a few day so she could see the others. Once all of her scabs were gone, we swapped positions. I put the bully in the crate and let the injured chicken out with the other 2. The 3 got along great. After about a week of the new integration, I've allowed the Orpington to free range in the backyard with the other 3. She ruffles her feathers on occasion and is still definitely top chicken but no pecking is happening.
So, they've been free ranging every afternoon together and then are locked up in different places in the evening (Pippy the bully in the dog crate and the rest in the run/coop). Yesterday afternoon it started to rain. Pippy was the only one smart enough to get herself into the run. I went out and corralled the other 3 in. All 4 were in the run. I went out every 15 minutes to check on them and at first it all seemed ok. The 'three' were eating while Pippy was on the roost or foraging in the litter. After about an hour though, I went out and Pippy had Pumpkin cornered and was pecking her. Not badly. No feathers. No blood. Yet. But enough to know she's still picking on her. Maybe I should have just let it go as long as there was no blood? I put Pippy back in the dog crate immediately.
SOOOOO, now I thank all of you who have actually read this far....should I separate Pippy completely so she has no interaction with the others for a while? Might that lower her status? The other 3 are definitely a nice little group. But I think they have memory...Pumpkin definitely seems to remember it's Pumpkin she should be afraid of. Should I set up a second smaller coop & run for the prima donna? They do seem to do OK when they are all out together...just not once they are contained in the run. Re-homing her is the very last option. We only have chickens for eggs and pets. We don't show or breed. But they have a special place in our hearts. But she's such a bully!!!! Do you think eventually they will just know the pecking order and Pippy won't feel the need to remind Pumpkin who's boss? Any advise is much appreciated!!!!