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The chicks and ducklings were so funny. I made Gavin fresh juice and gave them the pulp mixed with their feed (no citrus). Every so often one of them would find a chunk of pulp and run for the hills (well the other side of the room). Gavin LOVES "chicken football/keep away".

I would like opinions on this from fellow fishing people, and anyone else:







Now before anyone jumps right on Bluegill look at this pic of a bluegill and pay close attention to the eye color, mouth, gill plate, body shape and fins:


This is one of the other "sunfish" in this catch and release only pond:

(Yes largemouth are sunfish for any who didn't know)

In my opinion (and my Dad's who's been fishing for 50+ years) this is a bluegill-largemouth hybrid, because of overpopulation and nesting proximity in this catch and release pond. ETA: we brought it home in a container of pond water long enough to show my Dad, and get the pics with white in the background, then took it straight back to the pond (less than 2 miles away)
I'll be checking with some friends that work for the DCNR, and Boat/Fish commission, but I'd like other opinions as I've never caught a fish here in PA, or anywhere else for that matter, that looked like this one.
 
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BirdbyGavin1103 said:
The chicks and ducklings were so funny. I made Gavin fresh juice and gave them the pulp mixed with their feed (no citrus). Every so often one of them would find a chunk of pulp and run for the hills (well the other side of the room). Gavin LOVES "chicken football/keep away".

I would like opinions on this from fellow fishing people, and anyone else:







Now before anyone jumps right on Bluegill look at this pic of a bluegill and pay close attention to the eye color, mouth, gill plate, body shape and fins:


This is one of the other "sunfish" in this catch and release only pond:

(Yes largemouth are sunfish for any who didn't know)

In my opinion (and my Dad's who's been fishing for 50+ years) this is a bluegill-largemouth hybrid, because of overpopulation and nesting proximity in this catch and release pond. ETA: we brought it home in a container of pond water long enough to show my Dad, and get the pics with white in the background, then took it straight back to the pond (less than 2 miles away)
I'll be checking with some friends that work for the DCNR, and Boat/Fish commission, but I'd like other opinions as I've never caught a fish here in PA, or anywhere else for that matter, that looked like this one.
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I believe it is a green sunfish... or possibly a hybrid sunfish cross sunfish/bluegill... here is a pic from google for green sunfish


do a google search for green sunfish and they have numerous pics. The thing with fish is that the colors can vary greatly depending on water clarity/color and even the type of bottom they are over, time of year, spawning stage etc.
Nice fish though.. Panfish are so much fun to catch! I love spending a lazy afternoon at old farm ponds! Not too many more relaxing ways to spend a day!
 
fisherlady said:
I believe it is a green sunfish... or possibly a hybrid sunfish cross sunfish/bluegill... here is a pic from google for green sunfish


do a google search for green sunfish and they have numerous pics. The thing with fish is that the colors can vary greatly depending on water clarity/color and even the type of bottom they are over, time of year, spawning stage etc.
Nice fish though.. Panfish are so much fun to catch! I love spending a lazy afternoon at old farm ponds! Not too many more relaxing ways to spend a day!
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Thanks. That's what I thought at first but the PA Fish site says they're pretty rare around here. This is out of the same pond Gavin caught that crappie the other night, and we've gotten several odd looking fish out of it. There are rock, Lg and Sm mouth, both color crappie, 4 or 5 panfish type sunfish (pumpkins, bluegill etc), and multiple types of perch. This is not a huge pond, and I think they need to let people take over a certain size. I think the fish can't grow to the size they should because of the number of fish. I knew the prior owner (it's now owned by a church) and had permission to fish there, back then we took home and the fish got to eating size. Now it's rare to catch one that is big enough to even second guess tossing it back.
It's mine and Gavin's favorite past time too. He has told me many times he wants to be like Jeremy Wade (River Monsters), and travel the world catching fish. I earnestly hope he can.
 
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Lilbrownie said:
But come on MOM I was just having a snack, I promise it will grow back :)...
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how about this Japanese Maple? She also ate a Sango Kaku Maple and the fruit trees. Oh yes, it is quite the eye opener of a battle, but I will prevail! I have to..

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BirdbyGavin1103 said:
Thanks. That's what I thought at first but the PA Fish site says they're pretty rare around here. This is out of the same pond Gavin caught that crappie the other night, and we've gotten several odd looking fish out of it. There are rock, Lg and Sm mouth, both color crappie, 4 or 5 panfish type sunfish (pumpkins, bluegill etc), and multiple types of perch. This is not a huge pond, and I think they need to let people take over a certain size. I think the fish can't grow to the size they should because of the number of fish. I knew the prior owner (it's now owned by a church) and had permission to fish there, back then we took home and the fish got to eating size. Now it's rare to catch one that is big enough to even second guess tossing it back.
It's mine and Gavin's favorite past time too. He has told me many times he wants to be like Jeremy Wade (River Monsters), and travel the world catching fish. I earnestly hope he can.
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Sounds like a pond that needs some selective culling to improve the general habitat for all of the fish. When they become over crowded it stunts their growth and can cause die offs because they become more vulnerable to disease also. You may contact someone like a local fish warden or even an ag outreach person who is familiar with pond management and get them into a conversation with the church folks about it. Sounds like a really nice resource possibly heading south, would hate to see it lost.

Keep him fishing! It is a great way to spend time together and sure is a better alternative than many kids have these days! Plus it opens a ton of vacation ideas/options also. Radioman and I spend most of our vacations near a fishing destination we want to explore. Has been a great way to get away from it all!
 

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