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[AnneInTheBurbs]

Probably an advertising shirt for a seasoning company.... From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: [COLOR=0066CC]navigation[/COLOR], [COLOR=0066CC]search[/COLOR] This article is about a type of marinade. For a method of food preparation indigenous to the Philippines with the same name, see [COLOR=0066CC]Philippine adobo[/COLOR].


Lomo en adobo — pork loin marinated in adobo.


Chipotles en adobo — smoked, ripe jalepeño peppers in adobo.


Peruvian adobo chicken made from dried aji panca (yellow lantern chili, Capsicum chinense)
Adobo or Adobar ([COLOR=0066CC]Spanish[/COLOR]: [COLOR=0066CC]marinade[/COLOR], [COLOR=0066CC]sauce[/COLOR], or [COLOR=0066CC]seasoning[/COLOR]) is the immersion of raw food in a stock (or sauce) composed variously of [COLOR=0066CC]paprika[/COLOR], [COLOR=0066CC]oregano[/COLOR], [COLOR=0066CC]salt[/COLOR], [COLOR=0066CC]garlic[/COLOR], and [COLOR=0066CC]vinegar[/COLOR] to preserve and enhance its flavor. The [COLOR=0066CC]Portuguese[/COLOR] variant is known as [COLOR=0066CC]Carne de Vinha d' Alhos[/COLOR]. The practice is native to [COLOR=0066CC]Iberia[/COLOR], namely [COLOR=0066CC]Spanish cuisine[/COLOR][SUP][COLOR=0066CC][1][/COLOR][/SUP] and [COLOR=0066CC]Portuguese cuisine[/COLOR]. It was widely adopted in [COLOR=0066CC]Latin America[/COLOR] and other Spanish and Portuguese colonies, including the [COLOR=0066CC]Azores[/COLOR] and [COLOR=0066CC]Madeira[/COLOR]. In the [COLOR=0066CC]Philippines[/COLOR], the name adobo was given by the Spanish colonists to an [COLOR=0066CC]indigenous cooking method[/COLOR] that also uses vinegar,[SUP][COLOR=0066CC][2][/COLOR][/SUP][SUP][COLOR=0066CC][3][/COLOR][/SUP] which although superficially similar had developed independent of Spanish influence

So by wearing that shirt I am supporting tasty chicken! Okay by me!

Over 50 chicks hatched this week! Including 2 more Midget White turkeys. I love raising turkey poults, they are so much more imprinted on me than the chicks, they run over and eat from my hand every time. I'm also trying fermented feed for the first time. Just a quart jar's worth to feed to the older chicks until I learn what I'm doing. I'm not sure how to quantify the benefits, but mostly I want to make them tamer by having them eat treats like the FF in my presence. They seem to like it well enough. I was feeding them wetted food before and so it was not a big difference for them.

Congrats on the hatch! Can't wait for the March 7th hatch. Trying to work out the timing, my work replacement will be on vacation that week so I may have to pick them when they are a few days old after all.

I love doing the fermented feed. I use a 5 gallon bucket and a plastic ladle that I drilled holes in for draining. Every day I just scoop out what I need into the bowls then refill it with dry feed and more water. I can't wait to get it back out to the garage though. I'm tired of it taking up scale on my counter.

Do you find they like the fermented feed more? I'm not so much concerned about feed costs, but if they like it more and it is healthier, I am all for it.

 

[OneMountainAcres]

Do you find they like the fermented feed more? I'm not so much concerned about feed costs, but if they like it more and it is healthier, I am all for it.

I really can't say since they've been on it all their lives but they definitely swarm that bowl when I put it out for them lol.my very first chicks, when I switched them from dry to fermented, they were very unsure of it at first and I had to train them by sprinkling dry stuff in top of the wet. Once they realized it was food, they were all about it lol.

 

[AnneInTheBurbs]

Cool! Has anyone seen this before?


Ode on Chicken Math

If and when you get a hen, make sure in time she gets a friend.
That friend will bring a friend or three and you could have some roos for free!
With roosters comes the rooster dance ...a shuffle, a wing, it's a grand romance.
And romanced hens make lots of babies, and babies get you baby crazy.
So now you’re in the baby trance, all this fuss from a rooster dance.
They all need food so you’re off to the farm store later (we know what that means)
As a chicken keeper you should always say ‘no’ to the incubator!

 

[dheltzel]

I really can't say since they've been on it all their lives but they definitely swarm that bowl when I put it out for them lol.my very first chicks, when I switched them from dry to fermented, they were very unsure of it at first and I had to train them by sprinkling dry stuff in top of the wet. Once they realized it was food, they were all about it lol.

How young do you start chicks on the FF?
How often do you remove the FF to feed the chicks, one a day, or twice?
I changed the location from the (fairly cold) floor to the top of the incubator, and that seemed to kick start the process. I added feed late last night and about 6 hours later it smells well fermented, I only stirred it and will feed tonight, but I wondered if I can/should feed out of the the container twice a day.

 

[OneMountainAcres]

How young do you start chicks on the FF?
How often do you remove the FF to feed the chicks, one a day, or twice?
I changed the location from the (fairly cold) floor to the top of the incubator, and that seemed to kick start the process. I added feed late last night and about 6 hours later it smells well fermented, I only stirred it and will feed tonight, but I wondered if I can/should feed out of the the container twice a day.

I personally give them enough to last all day/night. Sometimes when they're feeling extra piggyish, I have to refill it before bed lol. I have it in a bowl in the brooder from the minute they go in from the incubator and have seen them eating it as early as a few hours after hatch.

 

[SilkieSensation]

Probably an advertising shirt for a seasoning company.... From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: [COLOR=0066CC]navigation[/COLOR], [COLOR=0066CC]search[/COLOR] This article is about a type of marinade. For a method of food preparation indigenous to the Philippines with the same name, see [COLOR=0066CC]Philippine adobo[/COLOR].


Lomo en adobo — pork loin marinated in adobo.


Chipotles en adobo — smoked, ripe jalepeño peppers in adobo.


Peruvian adobo chicken made from dried aji panca (yellow lantern chili, Capsicum chinense)
Adobo or Adobar ([COLOR=0066CC]Spanish[/COLOR]: [COLOR=0066CC]marinade[/COLOR], [COLOR=0066CC]sauce[/COLOR], or [COLOR=0066CC]seasoning[/COLOR]) is the immersion of raw food in a stock (or sauce) composed variously of [COLOR=0066CC]paprika[/COLOR], [COLOR=0066CC]oregano[/COLOR], [COLOR=0066CC]salt[/COLOR], [COLOR=0066CC]garlic[/COLOR], and [COLOR=0066CC]vinegar[/COLOR] to preserve and enhance its flavor. The [COLOR=0066CC]Portuguese[/COLOR] variant is known as [COLOR=0066CC]Carne de Vinha d' Alhos[/COLOR]. The practice is native to [COLOR=0066CC]Iberia[/COLOR], namely [COLOR=0066CC]Spanish cuisine[/COLOR][SUP][COLOR=0066CC][1][/COLOR][/SUP] and [COLOR=0066CC]Portuguese cuisine[/COLOR]. It was widely adopted in [COLOR=0066CC]Latin America[/COLOR] and other Spanish and Portuguese colonies, including the [COLOR=0066CC]Azores[/COLOR] and [COLOR=0066CC]Madeira[/COLOR]. In the [COLOR=0066CC]Philippines[/COLOR], the name adobo was given by the Spanish colonists to an [COLOR=0066CC]indigenous cooking method[/COLOR] that also uses vinegar,[SUP][COLOR=0066CC][2][/COLOR][/SUP][SUP][COLOR=0066CC][3][/COLOR][/SUP] which although superficially similar had developed independent of Spanish influence

So by wearing that shirt I am supporting tasty chicken! Okay by me!

Over 50 chicks hatched this week! Including 2 more Midget White turkeys. I love raising turkey poults, they are so much more imprinted on me than the chicks, they run over and eat from my hand every time. I'm also trying fermented feed for the first time. Just a quart jar's worth to feed to the older chicks until I learn what I'm doing. I'm not sure how to quantify the benefits, but mostly I want to make them tamer by having them eat treats like the FF in my presence. They seem to like it well enough. I was feeding them wetted food before and so it was not a big difference for them.

Congrats on the hatch! Can't wait for the March 7th hatch. Trying to work out the timing, my work replacement will be on vacation that week so I may have to pick them when they are a few days old after all.

I love doing the fermented feed. I use a 5 gallon bucket and a plastic ladle that I drilled holes in for draining. Every day I just scoop out what I need into the bowls then refill it with dry feed and more water. I can't wait to get it back out to the garage though. I'm tired of it taking up scale on my counter.

Do you find they like the fermented feed more? I'm not so much concerned about feed costs, but if they like it more and it is healthier, I am all for it.

I really can't say since they've been on it all their lives but they definitely swarm that bowl when I put it out for them lol.my very first chicks, when I switched them from dry to fermented, they were very unsure of it at first and I had to train them by sprinkling dry stuff in top of the wet. Once they realized it was food, they were all about it lol.

How young do you start chicks on the FF? How often do you remove the FF to feed the chicks, one a day, or twice? I changed the location from the (fairly cold) floor to the top of the incubator, and that seemed to kick start the process. I added feed late last night and about 6 hours later it smells well fermented, I only stirred it and will feed tonight, but I wondered if I can/should feed out of the the container twice a day.

Fermented feed: I feed from day 1, just make sure there is no extra water & it isn't sloppy. It works best in the long plastic feeders with holes so they don't step in it as much. Add dry a few minutes before feeding if needed to soak up extra water. They use way less fermented feed than dry for several reasons: They don't waste as much because it's harder to kick out of the bowls. They can digest it better, so need less. The water expands the feed to keep them hydrated & full. Additional benefit: the poop is way less stinky & not nearly as much of it since they can digest & use more of what they eat. I let the bowls run completely empty before refilling & remove anything that has been in the bowl over 48 hrs. This is especially important in hot weather because feed will start to mold if the areas exposed to air begin to dry.

 

[dheltzel]

Fermented feed: I feed from day 1, just make sure there is no extra water & it isn't sloppy. It works best in the long plastic feeders with holes so they don't step in it as much. Add dry a few minutes before feeding if needed to soak up extra water. They use way less fermented feed than dry for several reasons:
They don't waste as much because it's harder to kick out of the bowls.
They can digest it better, so need less.
The water expands the feed to keep them hydrated & full.

Additional benefit: the poop is way less stinky & not nearly as much of it since they can digest & use more of what they eat.

I let the bowls run completely empty before refilling & remove anything that has been in the bowl over 48 hrs. This is especially important in hot weather because feed will start to mold if the areas exposed to air begin to dry.

Do you strain out the extra liquid? Auroradream suggested a ladle with holes - I can make one of those.
Right now I'm only using a quart jar, but will scale up later if it works for me, and gets warm enough to not freeze out in the barn.

 

[wingstone]

Quote: my way is a lot like the way silkie does it. and no I do not strain the water but i will add some dry to it in the bowl of it is going to little ones....obviouisly I feed dry in winter because I can not keep it from freezing and since it is large scale, I use those large round rubbermaid garden tubs and have 2 of them going, Istop from about nov till april and my feed bill doubles.
about the poop, it makes a huge difference with meaties, I can spot clean them instead of empty the pen.

 

[SilkieSensation]

Fermented feed: I feed from day 1, just make sure there is no extra water

Do you strain out the extra liquid? Auroradream suggested a ladle with holes - I can make one of those.

Right now I'm only using a quart jar, but will scale up later if it works for me, and gets warm enough to not freeze out in the barn.

Check out @Sally Sunshine. She has videos posted on a no-strain method for fermented feed. I do something similar. And, as @wingstone said, larger scale is hard to do in this weather because the feed freezes solid in the bowls if not eaten quickly enough. You have 2 choices if you want to do ff in winter:
*Feed small portions several times per day.
*Place a heat source over or under the feed. Heated water bowls could be a possibility, or a heatlamp hanging over the bowl.

 

[Bettacreek]

I don't know how well the fermented feed really works to be honest. Has anybody done body weights with it? I quit feeding it when I accidentally splashed some on my hand and it BURNED. IMHO, the fermentation makes it so acidic that the birds just don't eat as much. Kinda a cruel diet plan if you ask me. :/