Pennsylvania!! Unite!!

[LittleMissPurdy]

Yeah. I'm thinking they just don't like the cold on thier little feet.

As promised here are some family pictures:


Left to right you have: Puffy, Cheeks, Olive and Blondie.

Tiny saw us taking these pictures and decided she wanted to photobomb, so I had a couple (out of focus) with her peering over the shoulders of the easter eggers. Eventually she worked her way into the shot.

Love the pics!!!...is Tiny a Marans?...looks like my chickadee!

 

[LittleMissPurdy]

I am not reading where your seeing anything less than annual??? it stating birds cant be tested under 4 months old....

you didnt paste the first part in that SUBPART E

PT section...

U.S. Pullorum-Typhoid Clean. A flock in
which freedom from pullorum and typhoid has been
demonstrated to the Official State Agency under the
criteria in one of the following paragraphs (b)(1)
through (5) of this section (See §145.14 relating to
the official blood test where applicable.):
(1) It has been officially blood tested within the
past 12 months with no reactors.(2) It is a multiplier breeding flock, or a breeding
flock composed of progeny of a primary breeding
flock which is intended solely for the production of
multiplier breeding flocks, and meets the following
specifications as determined by the Official State
Agency and the Service:
(i) The flock is located in a State where all persons
performing poultry disease diagnostic services
within the State are required to report to the Official
State Agency within 48 hours the source of all poultry
specimens from which S. pullorum or S. gallinarum is
isolated;
(ii) The flock is composed entirely of birds that
originated from U.S. Pullorum-Typhoid Clean breeding
flocks or from flocks that met equivalent requirements
under official supervision; and
(iii) The flock is located on a premises where a
flock not classified as U.S. Pullorum-Typhoid Clean
was located the previous year; Provided, That an Authorized
Testing Agent must blood test up to 300
birds per flock, as described in §145.14, if the Official
State Agency determines that the flock has been
exposed to pullorum-typhoid. In making determinations
of exposure and setting the number of birds to
be blood tested, the Official State Agency shall evaluate
the results of any blood tests, described in
§145.14(a)(1), that were performed on an unclassified
flock located on the premises during the previous
year; the origins of the unclassified flock; and the
probability of contacts between the flock for which
qualification is being sought and (a) infected wild
birds, (b) contaminated feed or waste, or (c) birds,
equipment, supplies, or personnel from flocks infected
with pullorum-typhoid.
(3) It is a multiplier breeding flock that originated
from U.S. Pullorum-Typhoid Clean breeding flocks
or from flocks that met equivalent requirements under
official supervision, and is located in a State in which
it has been determined by the Service that:
(i) All hatcheries within the State are qualified as
“National Plan Hatcheries” or have met equivalent
requirements for pullorum-typhoid control under official
supervision;
(ii) All hatchery supply flocks within the State,
are qualified as U.S. Pullorum-Typhoid Clean or have
met equivalent requirements for pullorum-typhoid
control under official supervision: Provided, That if
other domesticated fowl, except waterfowl, are maintained
on the same premises as the participating flock,
freedom from pullorum-typhoid infection shall be
demonstrated by an official blood test of each of these
fowl;
(iii) All shipments of products other than U.S.
Pullorum-Typhoid Clean, or equivalent, into the State
are prohibited;
(iv) All persons performing poultry disease diagnostic
services within the State are required to report
to the Official State Agency within 48 hours the
source of all poultry specimens from which S. pullorum
or S. gallinarum is isolated;
(v) All reports of any disease outbreak involving a
disease covered under the Plan are promptly followed
by an investigation by the Official State Agency to
determine the origin of the infection; Provided, That
if the origin of the infection involves another State, or
if there is exposure to poultry in another State from
the infected flock, then the National Poultry Improvement
Plan will conduct an investigation;
(vi) All flocks found to be infected with pullorum
or typhoid are quarantined until marketed or destroyed
under the supervision of the Official State
Agency, or until subsequently blood tested, following
the procedure for reacting flocks as contained in
§145.14(a)(5), and all birds fail to demonstrate pullorum
or typhoid infection;
(vii) All poultry, including exhibition, exotic, and
game birds, but excluding waterfowl, going to public
exhibition shall come from U.S. Pullorum-Typhoid
Clean or equivalent flocks, or have had a negative
pullorum-typhoid test within 90 days of going to public
exhibition;
(viii) Discontinuation of any of the conditions or
procedures described in paragraphs (b)(3)(i), (ii), (iii),
(iv), (v), (vi), and (vii) of this section, or the occurrence
of repeated outbreaks of pullorum or typhoid in
poultry breeding flocks within or originating within
the State shall be grounds for the Service to revoke its
determination that such conditions and procedures
have been met or complied with. Such action shall
not be taken until a thorough investigation has been
made by the Service and the Official State Agency
has been given an opportunity to present its views.
(4) It is a multiplier breeding flock located in a
State which has been determined by the Service to be
in compliance with the provisions of paragraph (b)(3)
of this section, and in which pullorum disease or fowl
typhoid is not known to exist nor to have existed in
hatchery supply flocks within the State during the
preceding 24 months.
(5) It is a primary breeding flock located in a
State determined to be in compliance with the provisions of paragraph (b)(4) of this section, and in which
a sample of 300 birds from flocks of more than 300,
and each bird in flocks of 300 or less, has been officially
tested for pullorum-typhoid within the past 12
months with no reactors: Provided, That a bacteriological
examination monitoring program or serological
examination monitoring program for game birds
acceptable to the Official State Agency and approved
by the Service may be used in lieu of annual blood
testing: And Provided further, That when a flock is a
hobbyist or exhibition waterfowl or exhibition poultry
primary breeding flock located in a State which has
been deemed to be a U.S. Pullorum-Typhoid Clean
State for the past three years, and during which time
no isolation of pullorum or typhoid has been made
that can be traced to a source in that State, a bacteriological
examination monitoring program or a serological
examination monitoring program acceptable to
the Official State Agency and approved by the Service
may be used in lieu of annual blood testing.

...okay, i am in NO hurry for this stuff!!...wow...but very educational. Thank you for keeping this out in the open for us all to see, because most of us have not a clue as to the extent which some breeders/butchers etc.. go to , to ensure a qualified program.-Danielle

 

[LittleMissPurdy]

the birds were finally out in the run today, enjoying the sun..and I was able to give them FF without it freezing solid! Looking forward to a few more "warmer" days!! should have took some pics

 

[SilkieSensation]

that makes sense as to WHY they dont want the every 90 days!!!!!  what is that about!!!!! EXPLAINS EVERYTHING!

She said there used to be another npip vet for Ohio but now it's just her. If I remember right, she has just under 200 npip sites she services. When I did my original cert in June 2012 it took less than a week to get her there to do the testing. As of Jan 2013, Ohio made it so you have to be npip in order to sell birds. This year it took almost a month after I called her to get my recert scheduled & almost 2 months to get her back out to test my new turkeys. Poor turkeys had to stay in quarantine the entire time. She is a very busy woman.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: She said there used to be another npip vet for Ohio but now it's just her. If I remember right, she has just under 200 npip sites she services. When I did my original cert in June 2012 it took less than a week to get her
what a shame too, what stinks terrible is if and when we have an AI epidemic, the states that do not fund this are in bad shape. What will happen is states like PA will pick up on it, but by that time it could be too late and other states do NOT have the resources to control and quarantine.

You see as Nan said to us at the CPT course, at any time we can be called apon as techs of the state should the need arise, and its a great thing that they are getting to be a fair amount of CPT people. I wish they would give a bit more training but Chad has said it has improved just recently thanks to some suggestions, its hard when something has little funding.

Its almost laughable at this point, if some states dont take it seriously it will never work. Why is it only PT testing that is needed to ship and not more knowing the dangers to what can be passed to humans? I only hope that it all gets straightened out before something major happens. And as we seen with the previous scares and if you see the migration charts and the flow of the AI viruses its scary. Did you know that they had positive tests for the AI 5/7 strain here in PA? Nan didnt go into more details but that crap is scary. The mortality rates are unbelievable.

here is some reading for anyone interested, those that have ponds and have migrating waterfowl are at most risk, so its always best to try to keep migrators away..... I am sure thats impossible and I am in no way implying that our little wild birds cannot carry either, for sure the little guys are always to blame! (can you tell I am little?)

We havent fed wild birds here for 2 years and rodents like those feeders as well.

Call me paranoid or whatever, but I can tell you this much my flock will be tested every 90 with a simple cheap swab, I am shipping birds and eggs and its my own duty to do what I can to protect others period. And again its a shame Silky has not this opportunity and many others. I will assume this is the same case across the states with very few that have things set up like PA. I am wondering silky how your state does the testing for shows? Do they not require like PA? If they do how do you go about that?

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/newsroom/hot_issues/avian_influenza/contents/printable_version/ai_pathway_assessment.pdf

 

[SilkieSensation]

 

 

 

that makes sense as to WHY they dont want the every 90 days!!!!!  what is that about!!!!! EXPLAINS EVERYTHING!

She said there used to be another npip vet for Ohio but now it's just her. If I remember right, she has just under 200 npip sites she services. When I did my original cert in June 2012 it took less than a week to get her

what a shame too, what stinks terrible is if and when we have an AI epidemic, the states that do not fund this are in bad shape.  What will happen is states like PA will pick up on it, but by that time it could be too late and other states do NOT have the resources to control and quarantine.  

You see as Nan said to us at the CPT course, at any time we can be called apon as techs of the state should the need arise, and its a great thing that they are getting to be a fair amount of CPT people.  I wish they would give a bit more training but Chad has said it has improved just recently thanks to some suggestions, its hard when something has little funding.  

Its almost laughable at this point, if some states dont take it seriously it will never work.  Why is it only PT testing that is needed to ship and not more knowing the dangers to what can be passed to humans? I only hope that it all gets straightened out before something major happens. And as we seen with the previous scares and if you see the migration charts and the flow of the AI viruses its scary. Did you know that they had positive tests for the AI 5/7 strain here in PA? Nan didnt go into more details but that crap is scary. The mortality rates are unbelievable.  

here is some reading for anyone interested, those that have ponds and have migrating waterfowl are at most risk, so its always best to try to keep migrators away..... I am sure thats impossible and I am in no way implying that our little wild birds cannot carry either, for sure the little guys are always to blame! (can you tell I am little?)   We havent fed wild birds here for 2 years and rodents like those feeders as well. 

Call me paranoid or whatever, but I can tell you this much my flock will be tested every 90 with a simple cheap swab, I am shipping birds and eggs and its my own duty to do what I can to protect others period. And again its a shame Silky has not this opportunity and many others.  I will assume this is the same case across the states with very few that have things set up like PA. I am wondering silky how your state does the testing for shows? Do they not require like PA? If they do how do you go about that?

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/newsroom/...s/printable_version/ai_pathway_assessment.pdf

Personally, I do not free range due to many factors, not least of which is disease control. I'm very careful with my flocks.
The 4-H kids have to have their birds tested before fair. All are done at a certain location on specific dates for each county. I'm not sure if our npip vet does it or if someone else (another local vet maybe?) helps out with those. You can have anyone certified do your pt but can not certify your own birds. I do not know anyone except maybe a few vets who will do blood draws on turkeys for the pt or any bird for ai swabs except the npip vet.

 

[LizardCat]

Love the pics!!!...is Tiny a Marans?...looks like my chickadee!

Nope! She's a Jersey Giant.

 

[LittleMissPurdy]

Nope! She's a Jersey Giant.

Okay..hahha, what do I know, right?! Hence the name "Tiny"?..being a "Giant".. hahahhaha...

what a shame too, what stinks terrible is if and when we have an AI epidemic, the states that do not fund this are in bad shape. What will happen is states like PA will pick up on it, but by that time it could be too late and other states do NOT have the resources to control and quarantine.

You see as Nan said to us at the CPT course, at any time we can be called apon as techs of the state should the need arise, and its a great thing that they are getting to be a fair amount of CPT people. I wish they would give a bit more training but Chad has said it has improved just recently thanks to some suggestions, its hard when something has little funding.

Its almost laughable at this point, if some states dont take it seriously it will never work. Why is it only PT testing that is needed to ship and not more knowing the dangers to what can be passed to humans? I only hope that it all gets straightened out before something major happens. And as we seen with the previous scares and if you see the migration charts and the flow of the AI viruses its scary. Did you know that they had positive tests for the AI 5/7 strain here in PA? Nan didnt go into more details but that crap is scary. The mortality rates are unbelievable.

here is some reading for anyone interested, those that have ponds and have migrating waterfowl are at most risk, so its always best to try to keep migrators away..... I am sure thats impossible and I am in no way implying that our little wild birds cannot carry either, for sure the little guys are always to blame! (can you tell I am little?)

We havent fed wild birds here for 2 years and rodents like those feeders as well.

Call me paranoid or whatever, but I can tell you this much my flock will be tested every 90 with a simple cheap swab, I am shipping birds and eggs and its my own duty to do what I can to protect others period. And again its a shame Silky has not this opportunity and many others. I will assume this is the same case across the states with very few that have things set up like PA. I am wondering silky how your state does the testing for shows? Do they not require like PA? If they do how do you go about that?

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/newsroom/hot_issues/avian_influenza/contents/printable_version/ai_pathway_assessment.pdf

Sally...
What has changed with the testing to make it easier?...is that just something in your area? Or is that a state wide thing?
It is very scary to think not all states are prepared for issues, should they arise...I guess it is never a matter of "if", but a matter of "when"...that is very disturbing, not just because of having birds, but..good grief, pandemic/epidemic...if China has taught us anything it's got to be.."be prepared"..or uhh, maybe be more careful from the beginning!!..
I am personally glad to know that you are taking the steps necessary, that should be done..to ensure your birds are healthy, for everyone's benefit.
We had stopped feeding the wild birds also.. knowing that something "could" make my birds sick..it just makes sense...they are around enough without me throwing out the "welcome" mat. -Danielle

 

[Sally Sunshine]

I honestly dont think anything about the testing is difficult its figuring all the crap out! LOL

PA offers to let you take the CPT course and do your own labs, and the AI is every 90 and that can be done with a trach swab and I think 11 bird swabs in one vial and the test is cheap and 30 birds = 3 viles. You can take to harrisburg or post them to the local lab. Then once a year you do blood labs and no trachs needed unless you have waterfowl or turkey I THINK??

 

[AppleJackAcres]

I honestly dont think anything about the testing is difficult its figuring all the crap out! LOL  

PA offers to let you take the CPT course and do your own labs, and the AI is every 90 and that can be done with a trach swab and I think 11 bird swabs in one vial and the test is cheap and 30 birds = 3 viles.  You can take to harrisburg or post them to the local lab.  Then once a year you do blood labs and no trachs needed unless you have waterfowl or turkey I THINK??

Yes it's a lot to take in.. bIood testing is easy..the paperwork they just like to repeat things over and over. I was considering starting with the pa mod. flock program but that's every 30 days. I am hoping to get npip next year. It will be my new year resolution.
I was at the cpt course too...I thought that was you in there...I was like I heard that name before..lol

Anyone showing at the farm show?

Kellye