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So for anyone used to figuring out genetics whose brain isn't as exhausted as mine is right now (Just got home from working 24 hrs straight and did coop chores, running on fumes and coffee)...

We have 2 California whites and from what I understand it is a....
Bar rock roo x white leghorn = California gray....
California gray roo x white leghorn = California white

So we have these 2 Cal Whites and they happen to be part of our White Rock rooster's favorite harem. We decided to hatch out some of their eggs. We got 4 black and 2 bright yellows ...
Is their any sex link color genetics on this generation like their is the first? Or is it just a hodge podge guessing game till the crow or lay an egg?

I am just too tired to make sense of it right now.
The Cal White hens are quite a "hodgepodge" genetically, but they contain only 1 copy of dominant white. The White rock has recessive white, which means his white "probably" has no influence in the chick's down color (unless the Cal white also had a copy of recessive white passed down from it's white leghorn parent - no way to know that).
The 2 yellow chicks are heterozygous (1 copy) dominant white. This usually shows some leakage of the underlying color, possibly black). Or, the yellow chicks could be homozygous recessive white. In any case, you will not be able to infer the sex of those 2 from down color.

Now, the black ones are more interesting. The female parent had one, or 2 copies of sex linked barring. But unfortunately, you can't be sure the white rock male was free of barring, though of the chicks are not barred, he had at most 1 copy. In the end, without knowing the underlying genotype of the Cal Whites leghorn parent, you cannot be sure of the sexes of any of the chicks based on down color.

This is why most people will tell you a white bird cannot be used for sex linked hybrids. Unless you are quite sure of the genes they carry for barring and extended black or gold/silver, you will not be able to ensure the correct parent is used for each sex.
 
The Cal White hens are quite a "hodgepodge" genetically, but they contain only 1 copy of dominant white. The White rock has recessive white, which means his white "probably" has no influence in the chick's down color (unless the Cal white also had a copy of recessive white passed down from it's white leghorn parent - no way to know that).
The 2 yellow chicks are heterozygous (1 copy) dominant white. This usually shows some leakage of the underlying color, possibly black). Or, the yellow chicks could be homozygous recessive white. In any case, you will not be able to infer the sex of those 2 from down color.

Now, the black ones are more interesting. The female parent had one, or 2 copies of sex linked barring. But unfortunately, you can't be sure the white rock male was free of barring, though of the chicks are not barred, he had at most 1 copy. In the end, without knowing the underlying genotype of the Cal Whites leghorn parent, you cannot be sure of the sexes of any of the chicks based on down color.

This is why most people will tell you a white bird cannot be used for sex linked hybrids. Unless you are quite sure of the genes they carry for barring and extended black or gold/silver, you will not be able to ensure the correct parent is used for each sex.

Thank you!
 
raised in ft.walton, we have a place now on jupiter lake in defuniak springs for when we become snowbirds. husband is from scottdale so when he got out of service, he came back home and i came with him, been here since 1970:cool:
Oh wow, you got a few yrs on me lol ive only been in pa for about 8 yrs now haha. Was stationed in new york so pa aint so bad :)
 
I accept PayPal. My LF saddles have fit some pretty large girls. I haven't found aa hen that they didn't for yet :) If you want, you can measure from between the tops of her wings to the base of her tail.

Finally found time to get the pictures to you. I measured her - this is the only chicken I have that is rather large. I have another 2 hens that are medium size and another 1 that is smaller. But they're all large fowl breeds.

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17 inches around her stomach, and 8 from between her wings to the base of her tail. Let me know if your saddles will fit her. Do you have a website I can order from?

Also, do I leave the saddle on her all day, remove at night? I assume she won't get her feathers back until she molts?
 
Finally found time to get the pictures to you. I measured her - this is the only chicken I have that is rather large. I have another 2 hens that are medium size and another 1 that is smaller. But they're all large fowl breeds.

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17 inches around her stomach, and 8 from between her wings to the base of her tail. Let me know if your saddles will fit her. Do you have a website I can order from?

Also, do I leave the saddle on her all day, remove at night? I assume she won't get her feathers back until she molts?

My LF saddles should for just fine for all the LF girls :) I do have a website but haven't set up a page for my saddles yet. It's www.onemountainacres.weebly.com if you feel like checking it out. It's always under construction lol. I do have them up on eBay though if you wanted to order that way.
Single LF saddle
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hen-chicke...695950?hash=item1ee186548e:g:26YAAOSwjIVacidG

LF 3 pack
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hen-chicke...742297?hash=item1ed886f5d9:g:6uIAAOSwp7taaNfr

Bantam
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bantam-hen-chicken-saddle-apron-denim-sturdy/132594639626?hash=item1edf41a30a:g:HroAAOSwdTJacink

I keep the saddles on at all times until the feathers grow back in. I even have one hen that can't ever be without one!

Iris after regrowing feathers and in her saddle. She was a big English Orpington and Auroradream's standard saddle was a PERFCT fit.

She looks fantastic! I'm so glad that it worked out so well! Your picture of her in the saddle was the best one I've gotten. Iris is one of the models on my eBay ad lol
 

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