Permethrin spray

[aart]

I did just read through the whole thing, duh, why didn't I do THAT before.

My cost question was answered and it looks like you do need to get under the feathers?

I skimmed bcuz I am in a hurry but I don't think I saw an answer for 3, 4, and 5 tho

~Abby

3. No withdrawal for permethrin as far as I know...might be on label as I believe it's approved for poultry.
4. Every 7-10 days until no active bugs are seen...directions are on label.
5. Depends on your definition of 'natural'. I believe most permethrins are approved under 'organic' guidelines.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Ok, so I just called the feed stores in my area and then went to the animal medicine cabinet suddenly remembering I bought something for pig lice when I got 8 week old piglets infested with them and then used a different product. So I have a 8oz bottle of Permectrin, is this the same as Permethrin? It says I can use it for poultry but I can not find ANYTHING about a withdrawal period for eggs on the bottle of internet.

Thank you EggSighted4life, BYC is a wonderful community, and I can not wait to get to know all of the members better!

It says permectrin is a 10% permethrin.... so you just have to get the dosage right as far as I can tell from a quick google search.

 

[aart]

Quote: Find the other ingredients.....and maybe compare to the product shown elsewhere(that the OP used) in this thread.

 

[casportpony]

Ok, so I just called the feed stores in my area and then went to the animal medicine cabinet suddenly remembering I bought something for pig lice when I got 8 week old piglets infested with them and then used a different product. So I have a 8oz bottle of Permectrin, is this the same as Permethrin? It says I can use it for poultry but I can not find ANYTHING about a withdrawal period for eggs on the bottle of internet.

Thank you EggSighted4life, BYC is a wonderful community, and I can not wait to get to know all of the members better!

It is the same, just more expensive.

 

[Ravynscroft]

Ah, OK then. I'll use this when I have a warm day and put Blues Clues on for the kids so maybe I'll be able to do it without ending up the kids ''helping'' and getting lice......I finally called the company trying to figure out if there is a withdrawal period. I probably sounded like quite the dumb blonde, but who cares?

~Abby

Just an fyi, you nor your kids can get poultry lice... they're species specific... they may crawl on your arm, but they're looking for feathers, which I assume you all don't have, lol...

 

[PamperedChicken]

I stopped in to read up on your advice about mites/lice, and how to treat for them. Two days ago, I bought (rescued) three Standard Cochins. I looked them over while in their coop, and didn't see any problems with eyes or nostrils, and the feet looked pretty good from what I could tell. I will admit, however, that the coop was pretty nasty so I knew these rescues would have to be quarantined. When I got home, I put them in my little Infirmary coop in the garage, and gave them 24 hours of solitary to calm down. I went out today to get a closer inspection. The Columbian Cochin is a mess. When I looked at her vent, it's moist in the inside, but dry around the rim. She has a constant flow of tiny tiny beige/white bugs running in and out of her vent. Her belly area is pretty raw which I can only guess could be her picking and scratching for some relief. Added to that, she was on one of the bottom rungs of the roosts, and was not clean at all. The Silver-laced is not as bad. I only saw a few bugs (lice) around her vent. She has a dry rim on her vent, but inside the vent is moist. The Black Cochin was in the best shape of the three, and was also on the top rung of the roost. She's dirty, but I didn't see bugs (although I'm sure if one has them they all have them.) She has a perfect vent, and her feathers are shiny.

The man I got them from is a breeder, but he focuses on two projects (blue Cochins and calico Cochins). These other Cochins were in the smaller coop which would have been okay I guess, but as I was loading these girls up, he told me that two days prior he had sold 25+ Cochin roosters from that flock for meat. (deep sigh) So there had been 50+ Cochins crammed into that little, dark, poorly-ventilated space.

They will have a much much better life at the Pampered Chicken Coop, but I don't know where to start. I've never had chooks in such a terrible state. I've read what you've said about the Permethrin spray, and what others have said about Sevin and Ivermectin. but before I can use any of those treatments, they need a good cleaning to remove the caked on mud and feces, as well as the cat piss stench.

It is January 7th, and currently 8 degrees in southeastern Ohio, but that's sure to break within a few days. Should I go ahead and dust them now, and then in a few days give them a nice long soaking bath with the whole spa treatment (hair dryer and camping out in the house crate)? If so, would you suggest they get the Permethrin spray treatment before they go back out to the Infirmary? The Columbian is particularly cranky, and I think it's because she's so miserable.

I apologize for such a long post. Thanks for any help or suggestions.

~~ PC

 

[casportpony]

I stopped in to read up on your advice about mites/lice, and how to treat for them. Two days ago, I bought (rescued) three Standard Cochins. I looked them over while in their coop, and didn't see any problems with eyes or nostrils, and the feet looked pretty good from what I could tell. I will admit, however, that the coop was pretty nasty so I knew these rescues would have to be quarantined. When I got home, I put them in my little Infirmary coop in the garage, and gave them 24 hours of solitary to calm down. I went out today to get a closer inspection. The Columbian Cochin is a mess. When I looked at her vent, it's moist in the inside, but dry around the rim. She has a constant flow of tiny tiny beige/white bugs running in and out of her vent. Her belly area is pretty raw which I can only guess could be her picking and scratching for some relief. Added to that, she was on one of the bottom rungs of the roosts, and was not clean at all. The Silver-laced is not as bad. I only saw a few bugs (lice) around her vent. She has a dry rim on her vent, but inside the vent is moist. The Black Cochin was in the best shape of the three, and was also on the top rung of the roost. She's dirty, but I didn't see bugs (although I'm sure if one has them they all have them.)  She has a perfect vent, and her feathers are shiny.

The man I got them from is a breeder, but he focuses on two projects (blue Cochins and calico Cochins).  These other Cochins were in the smaller coop which would have been okay I guess, but as I was loading these girls up, he told me that two days prior he had sold 25+ Cochin roosters from that flock for meat. (deep sigh)  So there had been 50+ Cochins crammed into that little, dark, poorly-ventilated space.

They will have a much much better life at the Pampered Chicken Coop, but I don't know where to start. I've never had chooks in such a terrible state. I've read what you've said about the Permethrin spray, and what others have said about Sevin and Ivermectin. but before I can use any of those treatments, they need a good cleaning to remove the caked on mud and feces, as well as the cat piss stench.     It is January 7th, and currently 8 degrees in southeastern Ohio, but that's sure to break within a few days. Should I go ahead and dust them now, and then in a few days give them a nice long soaking bath with the whole spa treatment (hair dryer and camping out in the house crate)?  If so, would you suggest they get the Permethrin spray treatment  before they go back out to the Infirmary?  The Columbian is particularly cranky, and I think it's because she's so miserable.

I apologize for such a long post. Thanks for any help or suggestions.

~~ PC

I would dust them now because a heavy infestation of lice can kill them. If you decide to bathe them, bathe only those that look/act healthy because bathing sick ones can kill them.

-Kathy

 

[Lady of McCamley]

I've read through the whole thread (great read btw)....

One question....

What kind of sprayer are you using?

Just the hand kind...like a plant sprayer?

And
@Folly's place

I'm not clear....did you just spray with the birds on the roost? Misting the top of the feathers, or did you get the nozzle up to the skin?

Thank you....I'm going to try this after it warms a bit since I am battling with the darn things and only holding them at bay with dust and no mite strips.

LofMc

 

[casportpony]

I've read through the whole thread (great read btw)....

One question....

What kind of sprayer are you using?

Just the hand kind...like a plant sprayer?

And 
@Folly's place


I'm not clear....did you just spray with the birds on the roost?  Misting the top of the feathers, or did you get the nozzle up to the skin?

Thank you....I'm going to try this after it warms a bit since I am battling with the darn things and only holding them at bay with dust and no mite strips.

LofMc

For the birds I use a quart sized hand sprayer, and I get the spray on the skin, :but for the coops I use one of those big premis sprayers.

-Kathy

 

[Folly's place]

I used a 1/2 gallon sprayer from the big box store, and misted their backs, and the coop walls and floor, and underside of the birds including the roosts. At night, with facemasks and gloves on, and a flashlight. The birds weren't handled or disturbed much at all, and were all mite free the next day. Since then, in spite of free ranging, and wild wrens in the coop sometimes (okay, often) there have been NO mites on the birds. Good luck? Who cares; it's wonderful! I used very little spray, much less than a quart of the mix. Mary