Petting

[yinepu]

Has not anyone heard of the diseases in other countries where they live with goats and chickens?

I grew up on a farm also and played with young animals but we had rules and boundaries when it came to bringing them in the house.

I would not let my kids bring chickens in the house no matter what. They are too dirty and they want to be outside.

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wow the quote function got all funky there...

anyway as I tried to say before it glitched..

I have to admit.. that I can see where Jessica Lynn felt offended.. because it certainly seems as that's exactly what was being insinuated.. it may not be what was meant.. but that's certainly how it sounded.

 

[yinepu]

Actually there is lots of new research pointing towards illness especially auto immune illness which h had been steadily on the rise with the consumption of processed food. There is evidence that these illness are directly caused by our focus on cleanliness. Some well respected researchers are advocating an diet of low processes organic foods with minimal processing (read washing) of produce. They point to the many benefits of eating (small amounts of) dirt.

As for the origional question , some chicken like to be held and petted others don't.

we would pull carrots right up out of the dirt and hose them off when I was a kid.. then walk around munching on the "not so clean" carrots.. I still enjoy a freshly picked raw green bean straight off the vine (when the darn deer and cows don't beat me to them)!

If you hold the chicken JUUUUSSST right in the palms of your cupped hands they can fall right asleep it's soooo cute. My baby chickens loved to jump on people's shoes and climb up peoples legs. you can pat them on the neck area and they will close their eyes and just relax in your hand, EVERY chicken I've had just absolutely LOVES IT!

I've had a bunch that loved it too.. my birds are all dinner eventually though.. so I don't try to baby them too much
Most of my emu love hugs.. several will rest their heads on my shoulder and fall asleep while they are getting their necks petted or getting emu hugs.. the two juvis are the exception.. they are at the stage where they run around like little maniacs and stop long enough to peck at my clothes then run off at full speed again

 

[Jessica Lynn]

Sorry, chicken poop does not belong in the house or in a child's bed.

No, that wasn't directed at me. :rolls eyes:
I'm sorry Sharon Bee. I am not going to play your game anymore!
You can go find someone else to goad into playing with!

 

[Sharon Bee]

I'm sorry you feel it's a game. I have my opinions and you have yours. I just believe in good hygiene and what's best for the animals.

 

[GD91]

I must admit, I did years of studying professional zoology & understand completely where Jessica & the others are coming from here.

My chicks are also in the house.... normally loose along with 2 trusty dogs .... No problems with chicken poop or anything because I just clean up with a mop behind them if needed & they also have access outside if they want. They sleep in front of the fire with the dogs. Of course one day they will be in a coop, but they will still be welcome indoors for a pet & treats.

In fact, compared to some animals I have kept, I actually find our chicks keep very clean when they are indoors & maintained.

Years back myself & a friend used to work voluntarily on a farm with chickens & horses, but there was no soap to wash your hands. We never once fell ill working with the animals, despite the number of times we smoked cigarettes whilst working (hence, transmitting possibly harmful bacteria to our lips).

It just depends on how you are as a person. Just because you wouldn't have chickens in the home because you consider them "unhygienic", it really is uncalled for to judge or hint judgement of someone else for keeping them indoors. Hamsters & rats, budgies & dogs.... you could consider them unhygienic, but people who would never dream of chickens in their home still keep those animals indoors. And ALL animals carry potentially life threatening bacteria that most people are immune to from regular close contact.

I have had numerous rescued wildlife kept indoors & I have never fallen ill from them either, not even gulls or common hedgehogs (which I would NOT recommend indoors, they do smell!)
Really though, her children's chances of falling ill from her birds is extremely slim. Birds run at a different temperature, so 95% of diseases are not transmittable to people. Bacteria may be another issue but as long as the children wash their hands after handling, they will not get ill. And if they did fall ill, it would most likely be nothing more than a 24 hour tummy bug. Her children are more likely to fall ill from a dog or cat.

In fact, reptiles are the most unhygienic animals you can keep. They carry A LOT of dangerous bacteria.

Sounds like those birds are very healthy to me & she is probably doing a wonderful job. What's best for them is that they get plenty of handling to ensure they are calmer & easy to care for in the future. Whether that handling takes place indoors or outside is Jessica's business. They are not wild animals so it doesn't matter to them too much whether they are kept indoors or outside as long as their requirements for the five freedoms are being met.

This post wasn't a rant btw.... its just what I have learned over the years.

 

[The Mother Hen]

Where do chicks like to be petted the most? I want to be able to make them relax more.

The tops of their heads and under their beaks is the best bet.

 

[KelsiNS]

Meh. Ive had everything from turtlles to goats in my house . If my chickens are the beasts that finally do me in, ill be sure to have my family update this forum

 

[yinepu]

I must admit, I did years of studying professional zoology & understand completely where Jessica & the others are coming from here.

My chicks are also in the house.... normally loose along with 2 trusty dogs .... No problems with chicken poop or anything because I just clean up with a mop behind them if needed & they also have access outside if they want. They sleep in front of the fire with the dogs. Of course one day they will be in a coop, but they will still be welcome indoors for a pet & treats.

In fact, compared to some animals I have kept, I actually find our chicks keep very clean when they are indoors & maintained.

Years back myself & a friend used to work voluntarily on a farm with chickens & horses, but there was no soap to wash your hands. We never once fell ill working with the animals, despite the number of times we smoked cigarettes whilst working (hence, transmitting possibly harmful bacteria to our lips).

It just depends on how you are as a person. Just because you wouldn't have chickens in the home because you consider them "unhygienic", it really is uncalled for to judge or hint judgement of someone else for keeping them indoors. Hamsters & rats, budgies & dogs.... you could consider them unhygienic, but people who would never dream of chickens in their home still keep those animals indoors. And ALL animals carry potentially life threatening bacteria that most people are immune to from regular close contact.

I have had numerous rescued wildlife kept indoors & I have never fallen ill from them either, not even gulls or common hedgehogs (which I would NOT recommend indoors, they do smell!)
Really though, her children's chances of falling ill from her birds is extremely slim. Birds run at a different temperature, so 95% of diseases are not transmittable to people. Bacteria may be another issue but as long as the children wash their hands after handling, they will not get ill. And if they did fall ill, it would most likely be nothing more than a 24 hour tummy bug. Her children are more likely to fall ill from a dog or cat.

In fact, reptiles are the most unhygienic animals you can keep. They carry A LOT of dangerous bacteria.

Sounds like those birds are very healthy to me & she is probably doing a wonderful job. What's best for them is that they get plenty of handling to ensure they are calmer & easy to care for in the future. Whether that handling takes place indoors or outside is Jessica's business. They are not wild animals so it doesn't matter to them too much whether they are kept indoors or outside as long as their requirements for the five freedoms are being met.

This post wasn't a rant btw.... its just what I have learned over the years.

from what I read.. she doesn't raise her chickens inside the house.. her daughters sneak them inside when they can .. and apparently into their beds at nap time too..

At least she will have some very friendly calm birds that she won't have to worry about attacking her kids.. not to mention birds that LOVE hugs and petting...

 

[yinepu]

Meh. Ive had everything from turtlles to goats in my house . If my chickens are the beasts that finally do me in, ill be sure to have my family update this forum

death by chicken.. i love it..

 

[yinepu]

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my emus also love to have their beaks rubbed... they will lean into the rub and close their eyes....