Pheonix Thread

[Michael99]

Not possible. My pheonixes are the only ones not enclosed.

On the other hand, I did learn that the recessive white gene is Lethal. Chicks with the recessive white gene are 50% likely to pass on

Interesting, I've never heard of that but it's kind of sad though

 

[JacinLarkwell]

Interesting, I've never heard of that but it's kind of sad though

Lots of animals have lethal genes connected to whites. I dint know if pheonixes have that recessive white or if they just have dominate (not great with genetics, foud that lethal fact skimming my generics book). Bur it would exolain if this was it why only that color chick seems to always have problems

 

[flowerfaeiry]

Interesting, I've never heard of that but it's kind of sad though

Lots of animals have lethal genes connected to whites. I dint know if pheonixes have that recessive white or if they just have dominate (not great with genetics, foud that lethal fact skimming my generics book). Bur it would exolain if this was it why only that color chick seems to always have problems

I hatch a lot of recessive whites from a blue gold over golds. Never had a problem keeping them alive. Perhaps they are pecked by a broody or other hen or ignored and left to die? I do have issues with my girls not accepting white chicks, if hatched themselves or not. The broodys will kill any white chick they see.

 

[flowerfaeiry]

So I'm really excited!! I've been talking to Cat Stasevich (she has a line of extreme feathered longtails that she breeds) and she was giving me some pointers on selecting which cockerels look the most promising when it comes to potentially being non-molting and therefore which ones are worth testing. Anyways, she said one of my cockerels from the extreme feathered silver gingers (which are partially descended from David Roger's line of non molters) looked promising!!! I'm going to post some pictures below, and in the coming months he'll likely be put in a tomebaku I'm going to build as his tail is already beginning to drag on the ground at a little under 5 months old! Anyways, in case anyone is interested here he is -
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That is quite a compliment you received, she is very critical, which explains why her birds are some of the best! Oh, but I see why, your boy is so beautiful!!! I love those hackles! Can’t wait to see him mature!

 

[Michael99]

I hatch a lot of recessive whites from a blue gold over golds. Never had a problem keeping them alive. Perhaps they are pecked by a broody or other hen or ignored and left to die? I do have issues with my girls not accepting white chicks, if hatched themselves or not. The broodys will kill any white chick they see.

I agree, I think it's more probable that the hens are neglecting or killing the white chicks. I had a similar problem with some of my silver gingers. Most of the chicks they hatched out were solid black or dun, but there were a few duckwing patterned ones as well and for whatever reason they would attack those ones, so I just took the duckwing ones inside and raised them myself. I still don't know why they did it, maybe they mistook them as some type of pest or threat (like a mouse or something maybe).

 

[Michael99]

That is quite a compliment you received, she is very critical, which explains why her birds are some of the best! Oh, but I see why, your boy is so beautiful!!! I love those hackles! Can’t wait to see him mature!

I'll be sure to update with pictures as he gets older! I still have a lot of silver gingers that are younger (and I just put another batch in the incubator yesterday), so I'm hoping I get some more like him!

 

[JacinLarkwell]

This last one was an attack from a broody (not the mother though) but the ones before this seem to just up and die sometime. They don't have marks and the hen is usually on the nest where they are so they're not leaving them to die or killing them. Ot stinkc because i get them but i can never keep them.

I have 2 chicks now, my hen that lost the white chick stopped brooding so I had to put all the eggs remaining under the Japanese bantam I had on back uo. Hoping that they do alright and that they weren't too chilled from being left overnight.

 

[Michael99]

This last one was an attack from a broody (not the mother though) but the ones before this seem to just up and die sometime. They don't have marks and the hen is usually on the nest where they are so they're not leaving them to die or killing them. Ot stinkc because i get them but i can never keep them.

I have 2 chicks now, my hen that lost the white chick stopped brooding so I had to put all the eggs remaining under the Japanese bantam I had on back uo. Hoping that they do alright and that they weren't too chilled from being left overnight.

I'd say if you want to be certain, as soon as any white ones hatch take them inside and rear them on your own and see if they make it.

 

[JacinLarkwell]

That will have to wait until I have my outdoor brooder built. I don't bring birds into the house anymore. I have my last avaliable hen starting a nest, and the rest of the Pheonix eggs are under a different hen in a different pen. That's as seperate as I can keep them until my brooder is built.

 

[Michael99]

Here are some more potential keepers of 2020:
2 Splash 3 1/2 month old pullets from my blue line, so far their type and feathering is coming along really nicely. They also have the whitish legs though, but I was talking with Aubrey and he said that it's the result of diluter genes (splash being one of them) that dilutes feathering coloring and will also do the same to leg color and that it's kind of unavoidable. This makes sense as a lot of my black birds that aren't even fibro also have black legs.