Hey Guys just wanted to share....I picked up these two "Pop -Up Style Dog Crates" from Target the other day $20 each! They are working wonders with my little serama flock in the sunroom! I tried to keep them in this very large parrot birdcage but BOY ARE THEY DIRTY BIRDS!!! I was cleanign everyday and trying to come up with ways to contain the mess and I WAS LOOSING the battle HORRIBLY!!! Anyway, these crates are awesome because they contain all of the wood shaving dust and feathers, food crumbs, etc! I put their water dishes inside of a clear plastic "shoe box"(Also from Target $1) and WHALA!!! The water in contained if they spill it and they seem to be lovin life! I'm thinkin that these would make a great "brooder" option rather than the plastic rubbermaid totes that I usually use. The main reason being that once the babies are old enough to jump out of the tote it always becomes an issue...but with these they would be able to fly out! The only issue would be heating it? I thiiiink??? if I put the lightbulb one of those little bendable desk lamps I'd love to try using a heating pad under one section of the crate but not sure if that would work out? Anyway...I know some of you must think like me and always be looking at everyday things you could somehow make practical use of for your flocks! (Hope I'm not alone on that one!) Anyway...hope this is helpful to someone!