pigeon newbie questions...

[sniper338]

1. Coop - how high does it need to be? What size for small time fun 4ftx4ft and 8ft tall? Nesting boxs on the walls inside?

2. Where do you get homing pigeons? Or how do you trap feral ones?

3. Get adults, let em hatch out young, grow out the young, let them start reproducing, get rid of the original birds.... then they will all know that coop as home.... open the flight door and let em fly?

4. Feed for in the coop?






I just want mutts like the wild ones... i like all the different colors and patterns...

 

[nchls school]

I have raised many different breeds of pigeons and each had their good points. A big factor is getting them to accept a new home. Very young birds work the best and accept a new home much better than older birds. Wild pigeons can be caught at night without too much problem. You just have to locate a barn, building, bridge where they have made their home. I remember doing this many time as a kid. We ate them.

Consider Indian fantails. They come in a variety of colors, quick to accept a new loft at any age, and do not have the nervousness of regular fantails.

Loft size depends on the breed, number of birds, and personal preference. Indian fantails do not require as much room as many of the other types.

 

[Hokum Coco]

1. Coop - how high does it need to be? No higher than you can reach (makes catching birds much easier). What size for small time fun 4ftx4ft and 8ft tall? Eight feet may be a little too high (it would be in my case any way about 7 ft is right for catching birds for me personally.) Nesting boxes on the walls inside Yes about one or two square feet is adequate?

2. Where do you get homing pigeons? From a breeder. Or how do you trap feral ones? String stick and a box works. Start feeding first then introduce a box latter.

3. Get adults, let em hatch out young, grow out the young, let them start reproducing, get rid of the original birds.... then they will all know that coop as home.... open the flight door and let em fly? Good adult homers "SOMETIMES" will bond with a new loft after they have raised about 3 clutches of young. Always release your new birds hungry especially on the maiden or first few flights around the loft take away feed at least 12 hours before releasing it gives extra motavation to return to the coop.

4. Feed for in the coop? I feed egg laying pellets and supplement with whole corn in an extra feeder through the winter.

I live in Canada and am subject to -40º weather.

Here is a quick peak at my set up.
Pigeons basically fall into 4 categories Show or Ornamental, Performance, Utility, and Homing.
I would suggest starting with "Young" homing pigeons that have "Never" been flown.
I fly white homers. At least the parents of all my birds are snow white homers. My birds have a Belgium blood line.
My point is not all pigeons will orientate to a loft when kept in captivity for 2 weeks.
This is what one bird accomplished after being kept prisoner for nearly a year. This pigeon was mated and had raised numerous clutches of eggs in that time. It was a happy reunion when he came home to his original mate:
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I make my nest boxes the size of a feed bag. Line the nest box with a feed bag when it gets soiled fold it up and pop a new one in EASY PEASY.

This is what I use for nest bowls approximately 10" in diameter available at the Dollar Store.
(It is wise to have 2 nest boxes for each breeding pair)


Nesting material can very from pine needles, twigs, grass, hay, and wood chips. My loft is a converted baby barn.



There are many types of trapping systems this is mine. Top is window hinged and doubles as roof, floor is hinged doubles as shutter for window in winter, Landing ramp doubles as door forming a small aviary to train pigeons to go through a bob wire trapping system.








Here is a recount of a memorable day.


Pipper
My grand daughter's hand-raised, orphaned-homer failed to return on a 20 mile toss. It was one of the few times she did not accompany me on a release. She suffered tears and heartache when I told her of the loss.

Amazingly when I went to close up the loft at dusk what should come flying in but (her pigeon) Piper!

I checked him over and he was tore open from his neck to his tail feathers.

My first instinct was to put him out of his misery. I however brought him into the house for a better look. My wife flushed out the wound with a saline solution and I glued him back together with crazy glue. He was good to go in about 5 days

This is him incubating eggs after his ordeal. .

My grand daughter was On The MOON when I told her of Pippers return. Grand daughter has experienced love, loss, heartache. first aid, joy, responsibility, and kinship with yours truly. She has also developed special bonds with some of our doves who prefer her company over mine when she comes into the loft with me.

It has given her a good subject for presentation at school as well.

We also are starting up a small enterprise with white dove releases (Pippers parents were both solid snow white just for the record).




Pippers Parents

Grand daughter did her first dove release at a wedding last fall also another release for an anti bulling campaign at her grade school.

With the aid of the Internet she has also become somewhat of an authority on homing pigeons. She definitely knows more than the average 12 year old on the subject and can talk your ear off.

This was relayed to me by her teacher after she was forced to cut off a presentation she made when the question period looked like it was not going to end.

She would rather hang out with Hokum (her name for me since she was one) then any of her friends or parents (for that matter).




Picture of Back Yard

However she will be entering her teens next year (make-up and boys will probably soon shove me aside).

I know however that these birds have made her a better person regardless what comes in the future.

Plus I have another grand daughter who is only turned 3 and calls me Coco (since she was one).

I am subject to -40º temperatures in Canada I house an assortment of birds in this baby barn (¼ inch veneer plywood between birds and elements) no heat no light no problems.

 

[sniper338]

Interesting....