Please Advise!!!!

[lurky]

Thanks for the links Sammi.......My friend has calles randallburkey and spoke to the owner himself and he told her the injectables would be better. We had already ordered the powder.....but he said if they are good drinkers it should help. She wondered where to put a needle on a chicken. She raises morgans, so is used to more room to stick a needle.

 

[dlhunicorn]

Tylan is poorly absorbed from water and the following link advises against the use of tylan 200 and explains why (and also has details on injecting and where):
http://www.afn.org/~poultry/newsletr/1996/psep96.pdf
Chicken Medications
by Dr. James Barton and Clarence Gillihan
(excerpt)
".....Bacterial Diseases:
Purchase a bottle of Tylan 50 and several 3cc
syringes with 25 to 30 gauge 1/2" needles. Give your hen 1 to 1 1/2 cc. of Tylan under the skin of the neck .........Continue daily injections for three days but not more than five. Withdrawal time is one month. Tylan does not have much activity against coccidia, but it is very good against Mycoplasma bacteria which is responsible for some respiratory diseases.

To inject Tylan 50, pull the hens feathers back
to reveal the skin on base of the the neck on her back. Lift the skin up and insert the needle gentlty but firmly into the skin just far enough to allow the Tylan to be injected. You will be able to feel it. Be careful that you do not inject yourself. Make certain that you do not push the needle through the skin and out again not injecting
at all...........................
Because Tylan is so powerful, it is recommended
that you purchase some Beneficial Bird Bacteria
and feed it to your chicken after she recovers.
Tylan wipes out all the benficial bacteria that is normally present in a chickens digestive system. Also, Tylan can kill skin cells near the site of the injection so you should not use anything stronger than Tylan 50 - a stronger variety, Tylan-200 is also available at your local feed store, but this will likely do more harm than good.

When purchasing syringes, get them from a
local drug store. The 'human' grade needles are a little sharper than the vetrinary grade. The cost is about the same and your hen will thank you...."

The medication can also be nebulized (or put in a VERY fine hand mister) in addition to (not in place of) the injection.

 

[pollysmum]

I've actually found that Baytril antibiotic is the worst for upsetting the gut bacteria and they only recommend it is given for up to 10 days due to the fact it causes crop problems.

The Tylan 200 is recommenced by most vets around here for birds as it doesn't upset the gut bacteria as much, they also recommend that the withdrawal time on be 7 days




TYLAN

SOLUBLE
Elanco
Tylosin Tartrate
Soluble

For Use in
Chickens, Turkeys, and Swine
Equivalent to 100 g tylosin base
An Antibiotic
NADA #13-076, Approved by FDA

Indications
Chickens: As an aid in the treatment of chronic respiratory disease (CRD) caused by Mycoplasma gallisepticum sensitive to tylosin in broiler and replacement chickens. For the control of chronic respiratory disease (CRD) caused by Mycoplasma gallisepticum sensitive to tylosin at time of vaccination or other stress in chickens. For the control of chronic respiratory disease (CRD) caused by Mycoplasma synoviae sensitive to tylosin in broiler chickens.


Chickens should be treated for three days; however, treatment may be administered for one to five days depending upon severity of infection. Treated chickens must consume enough medicated water to provide 50 mg per pound of body weight per day. Only medicated water should be available to the birds.

WARNING:
Chickens must not be slaughtered for food within 24 hours after treatment. Turkeys must not be slaughtered for food within five days after treatment. Swine must not be slaughtered for food within 48 hours after treatment. Do not use in layers

Residue in eggs while taking this product:
Tolerances are established for residues of tylosin in edible products of animals as follows:

a. Chickens and turkeys: 0.2 part per million (negligible residue) in uncooked fat, muscle, liver, and kidney.

b. Cattle: 0.2 part per million (negligible residue) in uncooked fat, muscle, liver, and kidney.

c. Swine: 0.2 part per million (negligible residue) in uncooked fat, muscle, liver, and kidney.