Please Critique Horse!!

Why are you asking for critiques on conformation? Your questions sound alarms as to your inexperience, and that is why you are getting these responses. There are alot of professionals on this forum that have given you some very sound advice.... now the ball is in your court. Asking for advice is not the same thing as taking a poll.

Bottom line, you are setting yourself up for an accident.
 
Honestly? really honestly? Both are dirty (who shows a filthy horse as for sale?) not great put together and look like they need a heck of a work to just turn out to be decent 4h projects. The economy is is the potty, look long enough and you WILL find a perfectly broke trained really nice horse for cheap or free.


And IMO, stud chains are a safety precaution that I wouldn't ever be without. The most perfect well trained animal can panic or have a meltdown under the right circumstances. For example my EXTREMELY well trained gelding had a dog sneak up behind him and actually nip his heels, horse 1350 pounds, me not 150. You get the picture. With out a chain he could possible have made it to the road or the next farm. I do everything possible and take every possible precaution that my animal will not get lose to wreck havoc or hurt me, himself or others or their property. A hopefully never used chain isn't something I really worry about.
 
since everyone is debating the stud chains i make a plea to . . . .anyone basically... not to clip the chain thru the halter ring and to its self again making a loop.

my friends horse reared, put her foot threw and flipped over threw the decorative fence on the barn pathway and impaling herself on the broken boards- which was nothing compared to her cleanly broken kneecap. it was so needless and disgusting but the girl leasing her was not at a level to really be doing much with a hot unpredictable horse ( the direction I fear this situation going in)


She was a nutter and the chain needed to be over her nose until post turn out.
 
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You and Pat seem to have nailed it. And to think I was actually WORRIED about this troll!

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Rusty
 
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You and Pat seem to have nailed it. And to think I was actually WORRIED about this troll!

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Rusty

Oh thank you, somebody finally said it! How many new threads in how many days? How many open ended questions? One thread gets dumped and a new one started. Round and round we go in circles.
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Stud chains, when used correctly, should not inflict pain in the animal.

Sure does something they don't like, right? or people would not use them to correct the horses bad behavior nor would people use them if the horses did not change the behavior when using them.

I have used a stud chain before when my gelding was going completely off the wall (food issue) and needed a little reminder. If he tried to get ahead of me, the chain would put pressure on his nose. In response to this, he would slow down to release the pressure. Personally, I don't like them and feel in many cases they are unnecessary. I used mine once or twice before going back to just a plain halter and taking 20 minuets to get from point A to point B because I had to stop, turn him, back him up, etc. so many times. The fancy 'stud chain' now holds my gate closed, and my gelding is back to his old self.

But, like a bit, riding crop, or spur, your not supposed to yank, crank, or jab with it (pain). A stud chain, UNLIKE a halter, will cause uncomfortable pressure that the horse cannot lean against. There is a point beyond that where pain does come into play, but a chain should never be used to that point. Many people DO use it to the point, but they are wrong for doing so.

In a situation where a horse utterly freaks out, even a halter can cause a horse severe pain because the pressure has gone from 'uncomfortable' to 'dangerous'. Yes, a stud chain does have a lower point at which pain does come into play, but like I said that point should not be reached.
It's like rolling your spurs against your horse (pressure) versus jabbing them (pain). Tapping with your crop versus whipping with it, asking your horse to flex to the bit versus getting a death grip on the rein and forcing his head around.
 
If I remember right I believe that this young girl is only 12 yrs old. I have an 11 yr old daughter and I would never allow her to post things on any web site. She is young and needs to find better things to do with her time then the posts what we have been seeing. She needs to talk to her parents or the person she is taking lessons from.
 
is there any thing a mod can do for this situation ( the ongoing posts that never get resolved and the advice asked and given? I would hate to see her take some of the encouraging posts on here to heart and get hurt because someone online told her to ignore the naysayers ( not that that has happened on this post- but the previous ones had a few )
 
I think all these threads are just a lot of imagination and on-line computer fun for this kid. She is young and doesn't see how full of holes her stories are. I mean really, no young beginning rider who is asking how to groom for a schooling show is going to be "buying" and training young horses for eventing, show jumping, dressage etc. etc. when she herself does not yet know even the basic's. Much less buying said $150.00 horse from several states away from her. I have read all her threads and could go on but I really think this is her having fun and games and make believe on this forum.
 
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