Please help me - I feel like a failure - lethargic, diarrhea, and weight loss

bk32

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May 24, 2024
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I don’t know specifically what I’m looking for, maybe just someone to make me feel like I’m not a complete and utter failure? Maybe some guidance on what more I can do? Antibiotic recommendations?

A little backstory for those who don’t know - I brought home a young chicken May 11th and made a horrible mistake of not quarantining and within 48 hours my young birds began sneezing/gasping for air. We treated them and they seem to be doing ok. By May 31st my older birds began sneezing and we went from 30-42 eggs per day to 12-15 eggs per day.
I did not have them tested, but we assumed infectious bronchitis.
Last week one of the roosters passed away. He was thin, but I assumed it had something to do with the infectious bronchitis.
Fast forward to today - one of my hens was very lethargic and when I picked her up she was very thin as well. She was fine yesterday.
I found a vet to take her to, NOT my normal vet. He ran a fecal and said she has no coccidia and no parasites.
However, she has a severe bacterial infection. He did not say what kind, but said he was starting her on a sulfa antibiotic and keeping her overnight.
When I asked about treating my whole flock he said I probably shouldn’t, but I explained I have a flock of over 100 birds. His response was “well maybe you need to sacrifice one of the birds so we know exactly what we are dealing with.”
I would rather NOT sacrifice my bird if it’s preventable. I did walk my yard and I do see what I think is some diarrhea, but also lots of solid poops. I did attach a photo of what I assume is diarrhea from one of the chickens.
I would also rather NOT lose any more of my flock.
I did switch their water to include probiotics immediately.
Tomorrow I’m planning on switching their feed to include more probiotics and vitamins.
However, is there a broad spectrum antibiotic anyone can recommend? I do have a request in for a 2nd opinion from an online vet, but I don’t feel I should sacrifice a bird when the whole flock was exposed to 2 birds now with similar symptoms.

I feel like SUCH a failure in this whole situation. I love my chickens so much, but feel as if I really messed up. I keep hoping this nightmare will end, but I don’t know what else I can do.
Even if they recover, am I always going to have issues? Am I fighting a losing battle?

Thank you for any guidance.
 

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:hugs What a horrible thing to go through, my heart goes out to you. You may not like hearing this but I agree with your vet. The only way to know exactly what you're dealing with - and possibly save your flock - is to get a necropsy on one of your birds. Then you'll know exactly how to treat them and, hopefully, restore them to health.

You are not a failure or a loser. You made a mistake, one anyone could make, and one lots of people probably have made, but without such devastating consequences. Now what you must do is deal with those consequences in such a way as to mitigate them and restore your flock to health as soon as possible.

It won't be easy, but it's what's best for your flock, and the sooner the better. I wish you all the best.
 
I agree with that vet...that sacrificing one bird to possibly save the rest is a smart thing to do. You need to know which disease you are dealing with so you can decide on how to more forward.
 
He ran a fecal and said she has no coccidia and no parasites.
However, she has a severe bacterial infection. He did not say what kind, but said he was starting her on a sulfa antibiotic and keeping her overnight.

I did attach a photo of what I assume is diarrhea from one of the chickens.
Looks like Cecal poop, but it also looks like there may be a Tapeworm Proglottid in the photo too.

@dawg53 what do you think?
 
@Wyorp Rock good eye. Yep, it's a tapeworm Proglottid. @bk32 You need to purchase Equimax equine paste and treat the hen that excreted the tapeworm segment.
It would be a good idea to worm ALL your birds. Here's how you can do it: See post #5 in this link:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/my-flock-has-roundworms.1582159/#post-26891317

BTW: Infectious Bronchitis (IB) passes quickly through a flock, most or all of your birds would be infected. Antibiotics wont treat IB because it's a virus. A sure sign of IB in a flock is that hens would be laying wrinkled eggs. If not, it's not IB.
 
@Wyorp Rock good eye. Yep, it's a tapeworm Proglottid. @bk32 You need to purchase Equimax equine paste and treat the hen that excreted the tapeworm segment.
It would be a good idea to worm ALL your birds. Here's how you can do it: See post #5 in this link:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/my-flock-has-roundworms.1582159/#post-26891317

BTW: Infectious Bronchitis (IB) passes quickly through a flock, most or all of your birds would be infected. Antibiotics wont treat IB because it's a virus. A sure sign of IB in a flock is that hens would be laying wrinkled eggs. If not, it's not IB.
@dawg53
There is absolutely no way for me to know which chicken that came from, we free range. So yes, I will treat the whole flock.
Do I just need to do the chickens or do I also need to do the ducks and turkeys?
Can I use Valvazen? The post recommends it for a large flock, we have over 100 birds total.

As far as the possible IB - whatever it was did pass really quickly through the flock, no eggs were wrinkled though. So maybe not what I’m dealing with…
I am not 100% confident in this vet I took my chicken to. I don’t know them, they had me drop her off and leave her… I had to call 4 times before someone called me back and they didn’t even run any fecal on her until 4:30pm (I dropped her off at 10am.)
I can begin deworming the flock tomorrow (I need to get the dewormer) but do you recommend a broad spectrum antibiotic as well for any bacterial infections?
 

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