Please help me

[KingGander]

We already know that the White one is a gander and the grey one a goose and they both have blue eyes PLEASE TELL ME WHAT BREED THEY ARE

 

[chooks4life]

White males and grey or grey-and-white females can be Pilgrim breed, they're sexlinked for those colors. If I recall correctly anyway. To know for sure you'd need to breed them. If they have white male offspring and grey or grey-and-white female offspring, they're Pilgrims. I think there are the occasional 'wrong-colored' offspring though.

Best wishes.

 

[livininbrazil]

White males and grey or grey-and-white females can be Pilgrim breed, they're sexlinked for those colors. If I recall correctly anyway. To know for sure you'd need to breed them. If they have white male offspring and grey or grey-and-white female offspring, they're Pilgrims. I think there are the occasional 'wrong-colored' offspring though.

Best wishes.

If the geese have blue eyes, then they´re not exactly Pilgrims, but then Pilgrims are just one of the auto-sexing breeds. But the best test, as you say, to see if they´re auto-sexing is to breed them and see what happens with the youngsters. Auto-sexing is a naturally occuring gene that comes up from time to time, and there are some geese in Australia that aren´t Pilgrim descendants that have the auto-sexing gene. At least, that´s what I´ve read. I found a really good article on this by, if I remember correctly, someone called Russel. But could be wrong.

 

[chooks4life]

If the geese have blue eyes, then they´re not exactly Pilgrims, but then Pilgrims are just one of the auto-sexing breeds. But the best test, as you say, to see if they´re auto-sexing is to breed them and see what happens with the youngsters. Auto-sexing is a naturally occuring gene that comes up from time to time, and there are some geese in Australia that aren´t Pilgrim descendants that have the auto-sexing gene. At least, that´s what I´ve read. I found a really good article on this by, if I remember correctly, someone called Russel. But could be wrong.

That's strange, the Pilgrims I've seen had blue eyes, in the males at least, but that was just one group and as you say, maybe they weren't real Pilgrims. I know in my mongrel chooks there's a variety of seemingly sex linked traits that crop up pretty reliably in males or females even though they're extremely far from purebred anythings.

Best wishes.

 

[livininbrazil]

That's strange, the Pilgrims I've seen had blue eyes, in the males at least, but that was just one group and as you say, maybe they weren't real Pilgrims. I know in my mongrel chooks there's a variety of seemingly sex linked traits that crop up pretty reliably in males or females even though they're extremely far from purebred anythings.

Best wishes.

It´s just the geese that have the brown eyes, the ganders have the blue.
I have some that when I bred them to auto-sexing, their youngsters are generally pied with mucky white, but the females have brown eyes and the males have the blue.
But, I also have another 2 auto--sexing females that aren´t Pils, they look more like Normandies, that have the blue eyes, but when I bred them to the Pil ganders to see what would happen, the young ganders look like young Pils with perky little tails, and the females are grey but with varying amounts of white on their fronts. and blue eyes. Such an interesting topic.