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Discussion in 'Feeding & Watering Your Flock' started by Knight1992, Sep 14, 2012.

  1. Knight1992

    Knight1992 Out Of The Brooder

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    What is red lake earth diatomaceous used for can it be used to get rid of worms or diarrhea
     
  2. Chris09

    Chris09 Circle (M) Ranch

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    Diatomaceous Earth (DE) is use mostly as a absorbent in feed and a parasite dust, against some beliefs DE will not kill internal parasites.
    If you have a worm problem you would be best to use a good Wormer like Safeguard, Ivermectin, Valbazen or Levamisole.

    Chris
     
  3. pigeonguy

    pigeonguy Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I don't like it because the farmers around here say that the clay also known as red earth does not pass threw the digestive system very well so we all use the perma guard white flour codex food grade. I know it expensive online but my local feed mill only charges $18 for 50 #s
    As for getting rid of worms some say yes some say no. I think it works as a preventive on the other hand. When I first learned about it I was told it would get rid of the worms in my wives farm cats skinny scrawny critters looked like they were going to die. I started mixing DE in their food every day lots of it and they didn't want to eat it my wife complained and I told her tough they will eat it or die. I also told her they won't starve them selves to death they'll eat it after about 3 days they started eating I gave it to them every day for 6 to 8 months don't remember which at the end of that time her cats looked healthy and muscular like a cat should not like they were going to die and they did not have the runs any more. Now I feed it to them in smaller amount since I have researched for a preventive its been about 10 months since I stopped the heavy stuff but if they started looking like they did before back on the heavy for a while.By the way we have about 50 cats maybe more and she knows all by name.
    Oh ya chickens I give it to mine. By the way for diarrhea when I raised pigeons and one got runny poo I feed them sweet 16 and in a few days it went from yuk to nice and tight stool. Don't know if it works with chickens yet but if one of mine get runny poo its getting sweet 16.
     
  4. Chris09

    Chris09 Circle (M) Ranch

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    This might help,
    Here is a quote from Dr. Christine King on Diatomaceous Earth



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    diatomite. Diatomaceous earth is a naturally occurring, soft, chalky rock that, when crushed,
    yields a fine, light-grey powder. It consists of fossilized remains of tiny hard-shelled algae called
    diatoms. Owing to their high content of crystalline silica, diatomite is mildly abrasive.
    In fact, that is the mechanism by which diatomite is purported to kill intestinal parasites. It is
    believed that the abrasive micro-surfaces of the diatomite cut the outer membranes of the
    parasites like thousands of tiny blades. But I question that premise. Industrial-grade diatomite
    has a high silica content and is used as a mild abrasive. However, food-grade diatomite has a
    much lower content of crystalline silica, so it is minimally abrasive.
    And even if the abrasion theory is valid, then what does this stuff do to the delicate lining of
    the digestive tract? While I could not find even one scientific study which validates the use of
    diatomite against internal parasites in horses or other livestock, my search did turn up several
    articles documenting the health risks of chronic exposure to diatomite. When inhaled, it causes
    inflammation of the airways and, with chronic exposure, even some fibrosis (scarring).
    Even more concerning was a study which showed that chronic oral intake of diatomite can
    damage the intestinal lining, altering its absorptive properties and making it more permeable to
    potentially harmful substances. So, it seems to me that the practice of using diatomaceous earth
    as a daily dewormer for horses is either useless but harmless or useful but harmful, depending on
    the grade of diatomite used.''



    Ann Wells, DVM
    Springpond Holistic Animal Health


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    State showed no benefit from using the DE. I have talked to Dan Morrical, Sheep Extension Specialist at
    Iowa State, who worked on the study. He told me that they had a hard time even getting the lambs
    infested with worms, which was necessary to test to the effectiveness of DE. I bring up this point to make
    you aware that farmers must know if their animals even have worms in order to know whether control
    measures are needed, are effective, or how to effectively change them."

    http://nofavt.org/assets/pdf/Parasites.pdf

    Chris
     
  5. ChickensRDinos

    ChickensRDinos Chillin' With My Peeps

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    It is great to use as a preventative for external mites and lice and to prevent flies around your coop but it is not for internal problems.
     

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