Polish X Showgirl...is anybody workin on this?

[chickendales]

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my years been realy good lot new showgirls and silkies in 6 or 8 difrrent colors sorry to hear about dog getting in,

 

[franklinstreetwest]

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NO they want the chickens to have dark skin like a silkie - thus why they are using showgirls not regular turkens/naked necks. BUT with smooth feathers and body similar to a polish and a crest like a polish not a silkie.

With a polish body type and dark skin, - the end product would be neither silkie, showgirl, nor polish. they would have to have a whole new name, and be a new designer breed

Will be a very interesting mix, I can't wait to see pictures

Absolutely right ScaredOfShadows. I do want the dark skin! Not sure I want the bowtie, but I'll split that hair later. My showgirl (Dinka) that I'll be starting with was actually the runtiest of runts! I had a whole batch from ShowMeSilkies, and a ton of nice round fluffy roos....alas at the time I was ONLY thinking of having a couple hens in the city here to keep me entertained and sooth my itch to own poultry again...so I got rid of the roos. Now I've got my mom on board to own chickens again, and I can set up breeding out on her property.

How does white feathering behave in a breeding program with other feather colors?

 

[franklinstreetwest]

Hehe, I could combine the names of "Polish" & "Showgirls"...call them "Posh"

 

[chickendales]

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NO they want the chickens to have dark skin like a silkie - thus why they are using showgirls not regular turkens/naked necks. BUT with smooth feathers and body similar to a polish and a crest like a polish not a silkie.

With a polish body type and dark skin, - the end product would be neither silkie, showgirl, nor polish. they would have to have a whole new name, and be a new designer breed

Will be a very interesting mix, I can't wait to see pictures

Absolutely right ScaredOfShadows. I do want the dark skin! Not sure I want the bowtie, but I'll split that hair later. My showgirl (Dinka) that I'll be starting with was actually the runtiest of runts! I had a whole batch from ShowMeSilkies, and a ton of nice round fluffy roos....alas at the time I was ONLY thinking of having a couple hens in the city here to keep me entertained and sooth my itch to own poultry again...so I got rid of the roos. Now I've got my mom on board to own chickens again, and I can set up breeding out on her property.

How does white feathering behave in a breeding program with other feather colors?

all the bowtie is is a bird with one naked neck gene to get read bowie u have have 2 genes for naked neck but u always get bowties as long a ur breed naked neck to non naked neck

 

[franklinstreetwest]

Cool, thanks Chickendales

 

[jacobkelly15]

i wouldnt do it! unless you want the mutt chickens well if you have a good quality polish rooster and 2good quality showgirl hen you will get a polish naked neck but will have slight feathers on the leggs but i want straight pure naked neck polish!

 

[aubreynoramarie]

I'm going to use a showgirl hen that carries both NN genes ( non bearded non bowtied) for a greater chance of passing on the nacked neck. I'll cross her with either a white crested black, red crested red, or golden laced polish roo.

I'm thinkin what I get from that can be crosses again with a polish pullet and still have a 25% chance of nn (ghah I don't really understand genetics!) either way I will then take THAT and cross it with a showgirl roo. May take a couple years but I'd like to keep all the babies anyhow.

 

[chickendales]

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then u want start with reg naked neck to polish and then cross it back to the polish

 

[ScaredOfShadows]

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yeah then you wouldn't cross show girls, just use turkens/naked necks with red skin. Get yourself some polish say 1 boy 4 girls. get some naked necks/turkens...1 male 4 females.

Put the polish boy over the NN girls, then put the NN roo over the polish girls. have 2 lines. original offspring will be F1A (Polish boy's pen) and F1B (NN Boys offspring) Cross them together F1A X F1B or cross siblings for your F2 = (F1A X F1A - F1B X F1B)

When you get to F2 do serious culling - those that have lesser crests - remove from your program. If you really want a naked necked polish your going to have to breed for the polish comb, so I think you can start culling for that seriously when you get to your F3 (Generation 3)



I would love this new dark skinned designer breed, to get clean legs you would just breed out of the showgirls, and breed your F1s together, then back to polish till you get enough of a varied blood in a couple lines that you can safely line breed your black skinned birds - if you breed to polish every so often (say a polish Roo over F1s and F2s girls) you'll get the body type, crest type, comb type, AND cleaner legs with each generation. Then eventually you can line breed or make 2 lines to cross back and forth with to keep the black skin color (unless you have other people who are also working with them to trade birds and blood/genetics with)

 

[franklinstreetwest]

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By dark/black skinned are you referring to the Polish X Showgirl?

If so, that was my draw to using the Showgirl as the NN catalyst. It seems that the leg feathering isn't as dominant, and that could with hope be bred out while still maintaining the dark skin. I LOVE the dark skin color and think it would look super chic on an NN Polish. I am excited to start building this project. It sounds like there are some others out there that are gearing up for the same thing, or at the very least interested in it. I can't wait to see what everyone else is doing!