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Bill, there was both a compliment and an insult tucked into all that ..Well that whole thing never should have escalated into what it did..I think you mis read that..you origionally told me a story about imogene, and some black orps..I have no idea who bred the white orps origionally..I was talking about the blacks..Hey they win championships, so if allen doesnt want to be associated with them, thats fine..kinda strange , but fine.....I was talking about 2 things at once, that is probably why you were confused..those white orps were hatched for a 12 year old boy as a starter show flock to play with..I think you might remember that..there was one very nice one there..very suprising..but due to all of the fighting and hooplah..gone now..very sad..these people had a lot of money to spend on birds..they never want to see another orpington again as long as they live..nor dt to talk to any orpington people..very sad..they are filling those empty pens that his daddy built for black auracauna coming next spring..and she told me im not to say any more than that..

please explain the
"insult tucked into all that"?
 
It was more condacending..but no big deal..its just part of your colorful being.

It was like , I got a freind out of this...and Lynne , all you got was a headach
 
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It was more condacending..but no big deal..its just part of your colorful being.

It was like , I got a freind out of this...and Lynne , all you got was a headach

I did become friends with Alan. And I do mean it sincerely when I say I give you the credit for me getting to know him. Now I breed my bird more like Alan. Or like Harry does. And I am proud to know them both and have them as friends.


Interesting link on Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organisms_by_chromosome_count
 
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I can not imagine why they would not want to join us in this wonderful conversation.
Maybe you will be the one who makes the APA listen to you and start DQ'ing for size. UNTIL then I am breeding my birds the way I said.
Again, no comment on tail width, or head size, thickness of bones or perfectly level flat back.
You still dwell on size. And I guess this means you can not use Monty. He is 14 lbs. Pack him up and give him to Don. He will give him a good home since you will not want to promote size.
Bill, You are totally misunderstanding what I am saying. I am not against big birds . I love biggies , and mine are huge. I am breeding them for my own gratification, not anyone elses. When I decide to show them, I'll go to the Ohio National to see them stack up against others' birds.

My point is that WHY is there an overweight DQ if no judges enforce it ??? Use it, or get rid of it.

I do NOT want level flat backed Orps. That spells ROCK to me.The concave sweep of a correct Orp top is what I'm after . Check the SOP.
 
What about Terry Britt's birds?

Sorry about the quality. My daughter took some of these photos.














These were "culls" that Terry Britt was selling.




A Cecil Moore Black Orpington bred by Danny Padgett




And some of ours here at Hall Family Farm......










Just could not resist posting this Buff Orpington Bantam with my daughter!


 
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The weighing issue has long been argued in the APA/ABA. Judges don't want to do it and shows don't want to do it. I have no control over what judges do in the APA. Contact Jim Sallee here in CA if you folks want the APA judges to be more diligent in DQing for weight. He is on the APA judges committee and he also raises buff Orps. I have some say in the ABA, as I am on that judges committee and in fact will be making some suggestions to judges at the ABA National in Stockton, CA the end of this month.

I don't recall anyone successfully changing weights in the APA SOP.

Walt
 
I like the top 8 photos of the Buffs. The ones below have too flat a top line with no concave sweep of topline. Those Blacks of Danny's are nice. The bottom BO 5 Ks show me too flat a top, like a Rock.
What about Terry Britt's birds?

Sorry about the quality. My daughter took some of these photos.














These were "culls" that Terry Britt was selling.





A Cecil Moore Black Orpington bred by Danny Padgett





And some of ours here at Hall Family Farm......









Just could not resist posting this Buff Orpington Bantam with my daughter!


 
The weighing issue has long been argued in the APA/ABA. Judges don't want to do it and shows don't want to do it. I have no control over what judges do in the APA. Contact Jim Sallee here in CA if you folks want the APA judges to be more diligent in DQing for weight. He is on the APA judges committee and he also raises buff Orps. I have some say in the ABA, as I am on that judges committee and in fact will be making some suggestions to judges at the ABA National in Stockton, CA the end of this month.

I don't recall anyone successfully changing weights in the APA SOP.

Walt

And if an exhibitor walked in with a scale, they would probably tar and feather them and run them out of the barn on a rail!
 
Bill, You are totally misunderstanding what I am saying. I am not against big birds . I love biggies , and mine are huge. I am breeding them for my own gratification, not anyone elses. When I decide to show them, I'll go to the Ohio National to see them stack up against others' birds.

My point is that WHY is there an overweight DQ if no judges enforce it ??? Use it, or get rid of it.

I do NOT want level flat backed Orps. That spells ROCK to me.The concave sweep of a correct Orp top is what I'm after . Check the SOP.

Vickie I am rite there with ya. I think a big beautiful Buff is about the best looking Orp one can have. I too am the only judge who matters around here. Just look at Walt's avatar and see what a well bred Buff looks like. No ROCK in that bird. And she has the same back that I am after.
Paul Montieth is another very close friend and APA judge. He too commented about my Whites being smaller. My White cockerel was 9.5 lbs at 9 months old too. Very much in the hunt of what the SOP says is a desired weight. He directed me to his fellow APA buddy, also an APA judge, from Canada, and asked Troy what was his opinion on my Whites if compared to Paul's. Troy said to me "Paul's birds are huge". then went down the list I mentioned. Thicker bones, flat topline, broader heads and chests. These are the folks who frequently are in my area judging. Like the ole sayin "if you can't beat em join em".
 
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