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[Lee]

Here is one of my laying hens.....

Lookin' good! Good layer?

 

[OSUman]

Shes a LF pullet, shes from Exhibition stock so shes not as good as hatchery sourced birds but she is still a good layer.

 

[deek]

Shes a LF pullet, shes from Exhibition stock so shes not as good as hatchery sourced birds but she is still a good layer.

For the novice, OSUman, could you explain? I thought I knew what exhibition stock was, but apparently I don't.

 

[OSUman]

She came out of breeders that were used to produce exhibition stock, but she was a cull. What I mean by exhibition stock is anything that is bred to the standard, there are often many differences between hatchery stock and exhibition stock including their size and often their egg production abilities, though that can be bred for in exhibition stock.

For the novice, OSUman, could you explain? I thought I knew what exhibition stock was, but apparently I don't.

 

[chickened]

Not to belabor the point but when a type like Australorp which was bred for strictly production not exhibition are they really exhibition stock? Delawares come to mind also.

I have often wondered the difference between show quality and exhibition stock myself...

 

[delisha]

Not to belabor the point but when a type like Australorp which was bred for strictly production not exhibition are they really exhibition stock? Delawares come to mind also.

I have often wondered the difference between show quality and exhibition stock myself...

Well.You are going to get so many different answers. This is just my opinion, and many will argue, and that is OK....

They really are close.

Show quality is used if you have a bird ready to go into a show ring and win some ribbons.

Some people will use the term to place a higher value on a bird. If it is not ready to show, it is not show quality IMHO

Exhibition quality means it has potential, might need some time or conditioning, or comes from show parentage. Or history has proven that the breeding results in Show Quality.

Some people use terms like:

stock from *exhibition* quality..means they come from show stock or the birds are SOP in there own opinion. And that is another can of worms. You can take the same bird to 20 different shows and get all different results. Every judge reads and judges the birds on personal preferences, not the SOP in some cases.


Also the bird themselves might be a cull, but, the genitics are there somewhere...I disagree with this one, but, it is a practice used and some exhibitors culls are far better than any hatchery stock.

Egg production and breed differences is what the show ring is all about.
Some breeds are about egg production, just not all of them.
Does this particular bird meet the SOP of its breed. Is it a good representative?

 

[Johnn]

I really want some White Orpingtons!!

 

[OSUman]

Show Quality is a sales term, Standard Bred is probably a better term for that.

Australorps and Delawares have a standard in the APA, so they are not purely production birds anymore. Here is an example of a hatchery Australorp http://www.privetthatchery.com/Home/prdDetails.aspx?id=BAS . Here is a picture, not the best, I took of a Black Australorp bred by Doug Akers.

Not to belabor the point but when a type like Australorp which was bred for strictly production not exhibition are they really exhibition stock? Delawares come to mind also.

I have often wondered the difference between show quality and exhibition stock myself...

 

[lildinkem]

Show Quality is a sales term, Standard Bred is probably a better term for that.

Australorps and Delawares have a standard in the APA, so they are not purely production birds anymore. Here is an example of a hatchery Australorp http://www.privetthatchery.com/Home/prdDetails.aspx?id=BAS . Here is a picture, not the best, I took of a Black Australorp bred by Doug Akers.

There is an Australorp thread on BYC. A very well known Aussie breeder Geoff O'Keefe has stated that all the Australorps sent to the USA from Australia were from production stock.

This is the bird in Geoff's avatar. A noticeable difference when compared to the production lines there and here.

 

[chickened]

Well.You are going to get so many different answers. This is just my opinion, and many will argue, and that is OK....

They really are close.

Show quality is used if you have a bird ready to go into a show ring and win some ribbons.

Some people will use the term to place a higher value on a bird. If it is not ready to show, it is not show quality IMHO

Exhibition quality means it has potential, might need some time or conditioning, or comes from show parentage. Or history has proven that the breeding results in Show Quality.

Some people use terms like:

stock from *exhibition* quality..means they come from show stock or the birds are SOP in there own opinion. And that is another can of worms. You can take the same bird to 20 different shows and get all different results. Every judge reads and judges the birds on personal preferences, not the SOP in some cases.


Also the bird themselves might be a cull, but, the genitics are there somewhere...I disagree with this one, but, it is a practice used and some exhibitors culls are far better than any hatchery stock.

Egg production and breed differences is what the show ring is all about.
Some breeds are about egg production, just not all of them.
Does this particular bird meet the SOP of its breed. Is it a good representative?

I tend to subscribe to what you have said.