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Duh ! Like you don't know? Those cute dewlaps are a great clue. The Clevenger birds fit the 1915 Standard, not matter what Walt's photo shows. His bird was photographed from below.Look at the photos of the birds from Europe, not from England. In England the judges are NOT adhering to the British Standard in placing birds. The birds from Europe, and Russia are. Not surprising , our judges don't adhere to the SOP either.
dewlaps... I know I have called waddles that before.. lol but not sure if that is what you are referring to or not..
 
Bill,

The question begs to be asked..."Why aren't THEY doing just that?" All I see are Rock tops, ewe necks, and loose wings.


I bought a "Reliable Poultry Journal from 1911".  Even back then they already identified the UK as a separate look compared to the APA's SOP.  Since then, as in dog shows, people will breed in what is winning shows.  IF I correctly cull I can make Orps more resemble those in these older pics.  
My aim is to correctly cull. Not talking about you at all, because I know you dont' do this, but some I know only seem to cull depending on show winners. It's a shame. Why have a SOP at all unless we breed to meet it? You have good enough birds to do it. I hope most can obtain the blood to do it. Let's put the hatcheries out of business with their little bitty egg laying things.
 
My aim is to correctly cull. Not talking about you at all, because I know you dont' do this, but some I know only seem to cull depending on show winners. It's a shame. Why have a SOP at all unless we breed to meet it? You have good enough birds to do it. I hope most can obtain the blood to do it. Let's put the hatcheries out of business with their little bitty egg laying things.

I breed my birds the way I like. I am the SOP with who I breed to whom.
 
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My aim is to correctly cull. Not talking about you at all, because I know you dont' do this, but some I know only seem to cull depending on show winners. It's a shame. Why have a SOP at all unless we breed to meet it? You have good enough birds to do it. I hope most can obtain the blood to do it. Let's put the hatcheries out of business with their little bitty egg laying things.


I breed my birds the way I like.   I am the SOP with who I breed to whom. 
In that case, I stand corrected.
 
One of my biggest pet peeves are fads, and Judges who judge by the fads. The standard is there for a reason, I could list all of the different things I see but the biggest one for me is that bigger isn't always better...
 
Thankyou to everyone who commented on my orps! :), Yes he is a Cuckoo Maran (hes Bellas brother) im so happy someone actually got his breed right! If i ever get a BO cockerel, it wont be untill one of my 2 cockerels die....
 
Heres another pic, not very good quality but you can see that the mother orpington is fine after her stoat attack a few weeks ago, (shes in the back, not the fornt thats her sister)
 

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