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I have been watching my birds for only three years, but with having APA breeder quality orps, part English orps, and a few other breeds such as (hatchery) Barred Rock, Easter Eggers, Dark Cornish, and Polish, I've got to say this: The Orps don't seem to suffer any more from the heat than most breeds.

In fact my Barred Rocks start holding their wings out and panting when it's only 80, long before most of the others do. I can't talk about winter hardiness since we don't have cold winters here, but rather very hot and humid summers. So far this year we've only had one 107 degree day but last summer we had weeks and weeks of 110+ degrees. And through it all, the fluffy orps don't seem to have suffered any more than the other breeds, and even less than some. Of course I provide all the cooling I can for them and am fortunate to have some 50 year old oaks for them to gather under and catch a breeze and a dip in some shallow water. Never lost a one to heat.

So when folks rant about raising chickens in hot climates that aren't suited to them, I just shake my head, since the red sex links they have suffer just as much if not more. In fact most of the losses of layer flocks last summer from heat were sex links, and there were a lot of losses in this area.

I know you didn't say anything of the sort, Vickie, but this is a point I've been wanting to throw out there and you mentioned a heat wave.

PS - I'm not saying it's great to have any non-heat loving birds in the heat by the way. Just that it's no more 'bad' to have a fluffy orp than a more common breed here. In fact, I swear the hen in my avatar begs me for a water bottle squirt to the belly when I lock them up at night!
 
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I have been watching my birds for only three years, but with having APA breeder quality orps, part English orps, and a few other breeds such as (hatchery) Barred Rock, Easter Eggers, Dark Cornish, and Polish, I've got to say this: The Orps don't seem to suffer any more from the heat than most breeds.
In fact my Barred Rocks start holding their wings out and panting when it's only 80, long before most of the others do. I can't talk about winter hardiness since we don't have cold winters here, but rather very hot and humid summers. So far this year we've only had one 107 degree day but last summer we had weeks and weeks of 110+ degrees. And through it all, the fluffy orps don't seem to have suffered any more than the other breeds, and even less than some. Of course I provide all the cooling I can for them and am fortunate to have some 50 year old oaks for them to gather under and catch a breeze and a dip in some shallow water. Never lost a one to heat.
So when folks rant about raising chickens in hot climates that aren't suited to them, I just shake my head, since the red sex links they have suffer just as much if not more. In fact most of the losses of layer flocks last summer from heat were sex links, and there were a lot of losses in this area.
I know you didn't say anything of the sort, Vickie, but this is a point I've been wanting to throw out there and you mentioned a heat wave.
PS - I'm not saying it's great to have any non-heat loving birds in the heat by the way. Just that it's no more 'bad' to have a fluffy orp than a more common breed here. In fact, I swear the hen in my avatar begs me for a water bottle squirt to the belly when I lock them up at night!
I totally agree with you about the English Os being no more sensitive to the heat than other breeds. All my birds, all Orps, have been canny enough to take advantage of the fans and cold water I've been dispensing. I do think though that the English Os would have an advantage in a cold, damp climate with more fluff. Look at the Clevenger photos. Those birds were not raised in Palm Beach! They had the same deep keels and fluff of the English Os. I don't think it's a coincidence that some of the fluffiest Os seem to have been raised in the coldest climates, and I'll bet they keep right on foraging and laying when scantier feathered birds are sitting on their feet to stay warm. I saw this trait in my Belted Galloway cattle too. In driving sleet and rain, when other breeds were standing with their butts to the wind, the Belties were out grazing due to their long, thick coats. Loved the Beatle hair cuts too!
 
Took some pictures this morning.....




Dafney, 5 month old English Pullet







Muffin, 12 month old English Roo




Good comparison of my Enlgish pullet vs American hen.



5 month old pullets




Group pic of my American hens


 
Took some pictures this morning.....




Dafney, 5 month old English Pullet







Muffin, 12 month old English Roo




Good comparison of my Enlgish pullet vs American hen.



5 month old pullets




Group pic of my American hens



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Took some pictures this morning.....




Dafney, 5 month old English Pullet







Muffin, 12 month old English Roo




Good comparison of my Enlgish pullet vs American hen.



5 month old pullets




Group pic of my American hens


Great comparisom photo! Dafne is darling, and Muffin looks to be a very handsome big boy!
 
The English Os have this deep keel at a very young age, and they keep it.The US Os develop it later, if they're going to have it. See my page for photos of my English Os. The pullet on my avatar was 12 weeks old in the photo.She just keeps on getting bigger and rounder.I think she'll end up looking much like the old Clevenger Orps, as she so far, does not have as much underbody fluff as some English Os. Heaven knows she doesn't need it here in SC with this heat wave!

The bird in my profile pic and all it's brothers and sisters had a deep keel when very young. The keel is part of the skeleton and it doesn't just change shape other than in a very small way. What does change the shape is the fleshing and the feathers. If you don't see a deep keel in the beginning plant the bird in the garden.

Walt
 

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